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Subject: Re: Penalty for Display of Alternate Moves = ?

Author: Pat King

Date: 10:09:42 12/03/02

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On December 03, 2002 at 11:29:56, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On December 02, 2002 at 22:46:50, Bob Durrett wrote:
>
[snip]
>>If no such algorithm could POSSIBLY exist, then why not?
>
>Within the framework of alpha/beta there is no way to do this.
>
>Why?
>
>Because alpha/beta doesn't search the entire tree.  It searches the first branch
>at the
>root, for the score, then it uses that score to prove that the other root moves
>are worse,
>without proving exactly how much worse they are.
>
>And therein lies the problem.  To get the second best move, you don't just prove
>that it
>is worse than the best, you have to search it completely to see exactly how much
>worse
>it is, and that drives up the time exponentially.
>
Perhaps there's a middle ground here. You can sort the scores of the fail-lows
at the root, cost O(B^2) at worst, and then probe the hash table for the
corresponding variations. You'd know the PV was worth (say) exactly 314,
variation 1 < 271, variation 2 < 141, etc. As a practical matter, how useful are
those less-than scores?
[snip]

Pat



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