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Subject: Re: ETC

Author: Frank Phillips

Date: 15:08:43 12/03/02

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On December 03, 2002 at 17:45:11, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On December 03, 2002 at 15:40:09, Frank Phillips wrote:
>
>>I have failed miserably to implement ETC.
>>
>>My broad understanding is that you try for a transposition table cutoff for each
>>move (successor position) at a node before recursing the search from that node.
>>In my implementation the search tree is reduced, but Searcher plays noticeably
>>weaker in real games, despite its performance on test suites not deteriorating -
>>in fact improving slightly.  Below is my pseudo code.  Any help appreciated.
>>
>>Frank
>>
>>for (each move)
>>{
>>	// MakeMove
>>	// Check for Draws.
>>	// Extensions for this move.
>>	tdepth=depth-1+extension;
>>	hit=HashRetrieve(pboard,tdepth-1,&tscore,&flag);
>
>I am not sure I understand the above.  tdepth has already been decremented by 1.
>You are doing it a second time.  That would seem to incorrectly order the tree,
>and assume a hit because the depth is one ply less than it really should be...
>
>Unless you have your search written in a way different than most, where the
>normal hash probe is done right at the top for most of us...
>
>
>
>

Then maybe this is the bit I am not understanding.  Ignoring extensions for the
current node, I do

ABsearch(depth.....)
{

(normal) hash lookup
score = -ABsearch(depth-1........)

}

I had in mind that the ETC extra hash lookup was a surrogate for the value
returned from the recursive call score = -ABsearch(depth-1)
and therefore that the ETC hash probe should be depth-1 ie


ABsearch(depth.....)
{

(normal) hash lookup

for (each move)
     ETC has lookup at depth-1

score = -ABsearch(depth-1........)

}


Cutting off at a shallower depth than the search would certainly explain things
though.....


Frank







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