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Subject: Re: new autoplayer interface standard

Author: Dan Newman

Date: 11:03:46 09/17/98

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On September 17, 1998 at 10:10:37, Roberto Waldteufel wrote:

>
>On September 16, 1998 at 21:20:31, Serge Desmarais wrote:
>
>>On September 15, 1998 at 17:19:30, Roberto Waldteufel wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>>    [snip]
>>>
>>>Hi Bob,
>>>
>>>In fact, the laws of chess are very specific about draw offers.
>>>
>>>1) It is only allowed to offer a draw when it is your turn to play, not while
>>>your opponent is thinking (or searching).
>>
>>
>>
>>In my 1993 FIDE rule, it says you CAN offer a draw on your opponent's time, but
>>if he complains about that to the arbiter, you would get reprimmended. If your
>>opponent accept the draw offer, then it has no consequences. I did not
>>check/know if the FIDE changed this rule?
>>
>>
>>Serge Desmarais
>>
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>
>Hi Serge,
>
>My understanding is that you are not allowed to do this, although it is not
>considered too heinous a misdemeanour. That is why you get a reprimand from the
>arbiter. If you persist in offering draws on your opponent's time, the arbiter
>can be more severe. In fact, if you should offer a draw before moving, your
>opponent has the right to insist on seeing your move before deciding whether or
>not to accept your draw offer. The only correct time to offer the draw is after
>making your move and before pressing your clock. Having made the offer, you
>press your clock and your opponent decides in his time whether or not to accept
>it.
>
>If we are going into detail, the recent changes to the laws introduced a new
>requirement that draw offers must also be recorded in the game score kept by the
>players (by an = after the move).
>
>Best wishes,
>Roberto

I wonder how this can be handled properly in this autoplayer protocol?
Currently with xboard, if an engine sends a move, xboard immediately
hits the clocks and sends the move to the other side, so we can't now
properly send a draw offer...  On the other hand we can send a draw
offer followed by a move.  I suppose the draw offer is sent to the
opponent first and then the move.  I wonder how many engines take that
move into account before accepting or declining the draw?  Perhaps the
"draw" command could have an attached move: draw Nf7+.

-Dan.



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