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Subject: Resultaten DIEP noch besser

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 17:25:44 12/05/02

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On December 05, 2002 at 06:41:38, Eduard Nemeth wrote:

Herr Nemeth. Mit double nullmove in DIEP geht das noch
besser.

>The Nullmove Heuristik by Fritz 8 is very much better now than by Fritz 7 !
>
>Read it here on my Home under news (only german , but with analyses and FEN)
>
>http://www.beepworld.de/members37/computerschach/news.htm
>
>Eduard

Diep auf position 1 ahnt auch Ka8 nicht.

position 2:

 d7-d8Q Kb6-b5 Bg8-e6 Kb5-c5
00:00  41400  41k 0 0 1656 (2) 7 (4,52) -6.412 Ke8-d8 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke6-e7 Kc7-b6
 d7-d8Q Kb6-b5 Bg8-e6 Kb5-c5
00:00  51650  52k 0 0 2066 (2) 8 (5,64) -6.412 Ke8-d8 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke6-e7 Kc7-b6
 d7-d8Q Kb6-b5 Bg8-e6 Kb5-c5
00:00 130033 130k 0 0 15604 (2) 9 (24,180) -14.615 Ke8-d8 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke6-e7 Kc
7-b6 d7-d8Q Kb6-c5 Bg8-e6 Qh8xd8 Ke7xd8 Kc5-b6 h7-h8Q
00:00 144735 145k 0 0 24605 (2) 10 (31,240) -14.615 Ke8-d8 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke6-e7 K
c7-b6 d7-d8Q Kb6-c5 Bg8-e6 Qh8xd8 Ke7xd8 Kc5-b6 h7-h8Q
00:00 169106 169k 0 0 54114 (2) 11 (56,390) -15.023 Ke8-d8 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke6-e7 K
c7-b6 d7-d8Q Kb6-c5 Bg8-e6 Qh8xd8 Ke7xd8 Kc5-d6 h7-h8Q Kd6-e5 Kd8-e7
00:00 182022 182k 0 0 98292 (2) 12 (85,582) -15.023 Ke8-d8 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke6-e7 K
c7-b6 d7-d8Q Kb6-c5 Bg8-e6 Qh8xd8 Ke7xd8 Kc5-d4 Kd8-e7 Kd4-e3 h7-h8Q Ke3-d2
00:01 193531 194k 0 0 249655 (2) 13 (151,1038) -17.393 Ke8-d8 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke6-e
7 Kc7-b6 d7-d8Q Kb6-c5 Bg8-e6 Qh8xd8 Ke7xd8 Kc5-d6 h7-h8Q Kd6-e5 Qh8xh6 Ke5-e4
00:06 249846 250k 0 0 1521564 (2) 14 (327,1964) -MATE12 Ke8-d8 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke6-
e7 Kc7-b6 d7-d8Q Kb6-c5 Qd8-d5 Kc5-b6 Qd5-b3 Kb6-c5 Qb3-c4 Kc5-b6 Qc4-b4 Kb6-a6
Bg8-c4 Ka6-a7 Qb4-a5 Ka7-b7 Bc4-d5 Kb7-c8 Qa5-a6 Kc8-c7 Qa6-b7
00:26 237796 238k 0 0 6308741 (2) 15 (1001,4667) -MATE10 Ke8-d8 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke6
-e7 Kc7-b6 d7-d8Q Kb6-c5 Qd8-d5 Kc5-b4 Qd5-c4 Kb4-a5 Ke7-d6 Qh8xh7 g6xh7 Ka5-b6
Qc4-c6 Kb6-a7 Kd6-c7 g7-g6 Qc6-b7
00:55 249422 249k 0 0 13745675 (2) 16 (1751,8004) -MATE09 Ke8-d8 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke
6-e7 Kc7-b6 d7-d8Q Kb6-c5 Qd8-d6 Kc5-b5 Qd6-e5 Kb5-a6 Qe5-b8 Ka6-a5 Ke7-d6 Qh8xg
8 h7xg8Q Ka5-a6
01:32 239023 239k 0 0 22006886 (2) 17 (3846,16185) -MATE09 Ke8-d8 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 K
e6-e7 Kc7-b6 d7-d8Q Kb6-c5 Qd8-d6 Kc5-b5 Qd6-e5 Kb5-a6 Qe5-b8 Ka6-a5 Ke7-d6 Qh8x
g8 h7xg8Q Ka5-a6

Aufmerkung: DIEP hat kein 'fail high' Also es untersucht schon ein zug
wenn es das noch nicht sehen lasst. Fritz spielt schon ein zug wenn es
das untersucht (fail high).

0:24 fuer fritz8 versus 0:06 fuer diep.

diep's hashtabellen waren schon gelost wenn ich ein neue position lade
selbstverstandlich.

Position 3:

konig nach d8:

00:00  71966  72k 0 0 2159 (2) 5 (3,39) 12.542 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke6-e7 Kc7-c6 d7-d8Q

00:00  78833  79k 0 0 2365 (2) 6 (3,46) 12.542 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke6-e7 Kc7-c6 d7-d8Q

00:00  87133  87k 0 0 2614 (2) 7 (4,55) 12.542 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke6-e7 Kc7-c6 d7-d8Q

00:00  92240  92k 0 0 4612 (2) 8 (10,85) 12.752 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke6-e7 Kc7-c6 d7-d8
Q
00:00 156976 157k 0 0 20407 (2) 9 (22,151) 25.741 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke6-e7 Kc7-c6 d7-
d8Q Qh8xh7 Qd8-c8 Kc6-b5 g6xh7 Kb5-a4 h7-h8Q
00:00 170257 170k 0 0 59590 (2) 10 (38,273) 26.408 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke6-e7 Kc7-c6 d7
-d8Q Qh8xh7 Bg8-d5 Kc6-c5 g6xh7 Kc5-d4 h7-h8Q Kd4-c3 f5-f6 Kc3-d4
00:00 196610 197k 0 0 135661 (2) 11 (74,524) 26.692 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke6-e7 Kc7-c6 d
7-d8Q Qh8xh7 Bg8-d5 Kc6-b5 g6xh7 Kb5-a4 Qd8-a8 Ka4-b4 h7-h8Q Kb4-c5
00:02 177356 177k 0 0 475316 (2) 12 (171,1180) 29.459 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke6-e7 Kc7-c6
 d7-d8Q Qh8xh7 Qd8-d6 Kc6-b5 g6xh7 g7-g6 Qd6-b8 Kb5-a5 h7-h8Q Bh6-f8 Qb8xf8 g6xf
5 Qf8xf5 Ka5-b4
00:12 258399 258k 0 0 3235159 (2) 13 (1017,3379) MATE09 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke6-e7 Kc7-
c6 d7-d8Q Qh8xh7 Qd8-d5 Kc6-b6 Bg8xh7 Kb6-a7 Ke7-d7 Ka7-b6 Kd7-c8
00:16 260728 261k 0 0 4356774 (2) 14 (1873,5654) MATE09 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke6-e7 Kc7-
c6 d7-d8Q Qh8xh7 Qd8-d5 Kc6-b6 Bg8xh7 Kb6-a7 Ke7-d7 Ka7-b6 Kd7-c8
00:25 279701 280k 0 0 7191134 (2) 15 (2042,6476) MATE09 d6-d7 Kd8-c7 Ke6-e7 Kc7-
c6 d7-d8Q Qh8xh7 g6xh7 Kc6-b5 h7-h8Q Kb5-b4 Qd8-d4 Kb4-a5 Bg8-d5 Ka5-b5 Qh8-e8 K
b5-a6 Qe8-a4

Position nullmove_matt:

00:00   1350   1k 0 0 27 (2) 2 (0,1) 7.220 Bc8-f5 Kb8-a8
++ c8-b7
00:00   3400   3k 0 0 68 (2) 2 (0,8) 9.179 Bc8-b7 Bg1-d4 Rh1xh2
00:00   4500   5k 0 0 90 (2) 3 (0,10) 9.179 Bc8-b7 Bg1-d4 Rh1xh2
00:00  17100  17k 0 0 342 (2) 4 (0,19) 9.134 Bc8-b7 Bg1-d4 Rh1xh2 Bd4-e5
00:00  46300  46k 0 0 926 (2) 5 (2,40) 9.599 Bc8-b7 Bg1-d4 Rh1xh2 Bd4-c3 Rh2-h7

00:00  93500  94k 0 0 4675 (2) 6 (7,100) 10.222 Bc8-b7 Bg1-f2 Rh1xh2 Bf2-h4 Rh2-
e2 Bh4-e7 Re2-e6 Be7-d8 Kb5xc5
00:00 142880 143k 0 0 7144 (2) 7 (17,142) 15.635 Bc8-b7 Bg1-f2 Rh1xh2 Bf2-h4 Rh2
-h3 Bh4-d8 Rh3-g3 Bd8-g5 Rg3xg5
00:00 192983 193k 0 0 11579 (2) 8 (24,189) MATE08 Bc8-b7 Bg1-f2 Rh1xh2 Bf2-h4 Rh
2-h3 Bh4-d8 Rh3-h7 Bd8-f6 Rh7-h6 Bf6-e5 Rh6-e6 Be5-f6 Re6-e8 Bf6-d8 Re8xd8
00:00 184540 185k 0 0 18454 (2) 9 (28,239) MATE07 Bc8-b7 Bg1-f2 Rh1xh2 Bf2-h4 Rh
2-g2 Bh4-g5 Rg2-g1 Bg5-d8 Rg1-g7 Bd8-f6 Rg7-g8 Bf6-d8 Rg8xd8
00:00 189235 189k 0 0 32170 (2) 10 (30,299) MATE07 Bc8-b7 Bg1-f2 Rh1xh2 Bf2-h4 R

Fritz benutzt ungefahr 44 secunden hier.

Sieht danach aus das die double nullmove in diep besser arbeitet?

Ich mache immer nullmove, nur nicht im bauernendspiel. So keine tricks
wie einige programmen wie crafty der kein nullmove machen mit nur 1
figur drauf, nur um einige testsets zu losen :)


DIEP holt ungefahr 130k nps im eroffnungsspiel. Bis zum 400k nps in diese
positionen.

Gruessen,
Vincent



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