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Subject: Re: Label the Craftys on ICC

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 12:55:51 09/17/98

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On September 17, 1998 at 15:04:32, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>
>On September 17, 1998 at 09:05:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>I choose to not play unrated, to try to make the games "serious".  Since most
>>there treasure rating points, rated games tend to be more serious games.  Also,
>>I have seen "scams" where someone "fishes" by playing unrated games until they
>>find a way to force a program to follow a bad book line, then they will play a
>>rated game and win.  Also there is a problem with playing rated as white, then
>>an unrated when you get black, then rated with white, etc...
>
>I get this, but not so that I'd really notice or care.
>
>You can't do the white/black thing.  If you play a rated game as white, then do
>an unrated game, you may get white or black randomly, but if you do a rated game
>with the same opponent after that, you'll get black.  Which is my way of telling
>you that this one has been fixed.
>
>bruce



I'm not convinced it is fixed...  I've left messages for Sleator and fishbait,
as I have seen too many cases where this is broken...  IE a player plays Crafty
as white, rated, then they play someone else as black, unrated, then back to
crafty and they generally get white again.  Or they use other delaying tricks
to play multiple whites with no blacks...

I've asked ICC to look at both player's history, and find the last game they
played and alternate colors based on that.. but that still leaves a hole of
playing 23 other games then coming back again and getting white because the
last game vs crafty is no longer in the history...

Messy  And it isn't always intentional...  Remember the discussion one night
where Crafty and Ban had played 10 games, and crafty had black in *seven* of
them?  Just based on random spacing of games by Ban?  (this was over a period
of maybe 24 hours or so)...



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