Author: Jorge Pichard
Date: 03:10:01 12/06/02
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On December 06, 2002 at 04:57:01, Uri Blass wrote:
>On December 06, 2002 at 04:44:05, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On December 06, 2002 at 04:18:38, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On December 06, 2002 at 03:47:31, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 05, 2002 at 16:52:06, Roy Eassa wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>1200 MHz Athlon results only:
>>>>
>>>>I read several times that doubling the speed account for at least 50 Rating
>>>>points, but if you consider Chess Tiger 15 performance on a mere K6 450 Mhz
>>>>which is less than half the speed of an AMD Athlon 1.2 Ghz, the difference is
>>>>less than that.
>>>
>>>I think that you miss the statistical error and it is also not clear that
>>>you get always at least 50 elo from doubling the speed when the hardware get
>>>faster.
>>>
>>>Diminishing returns is possible.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>That is true, but it would be interesting to find out what is the breaking point
>>where the diminishing returns take effect, there has to be a breaking point in
>>hardware's speed where the difference in speed no longer is important.
>>
>>Pichard.
>
>I do not believe in one breaking point.
>
>I guess that this is a process and I also believe that it is a slow process.
>The difference may get down from 50 to 45 and from 45 to 40 but you are not
>going to see close to 0 returns in the near future.
>
The difference has already decrease from 50 to 45 and even lower than 40 if you
take into consideration Chess Tiger 15 from K6-450 Mhz to 1.2 Ghz.
THE SSDF RATING LIST 2002-12-05 89632 games played by 248 computers
Rating + - Games Won Oppo
------ --- --- ----- --- ----
1 Deep Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2755 31 -29 614 71% 2603
2 Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2741 30 -29 574 64% 2636
3 Shredder 6.0 Paderb 256MB Athlon 1200 2734 25 -24 852 65% 2624
4 Chess Tiger 15.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2731 33 -31 517 67% 2609
5 Shredder 6.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2717 32 -31 505 64% 2618
6 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 256MB Athlon 1200 2715 30 -30 557 61% 2636
7 Deep Fritz 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2711 31 -30 531 62% 2628
8 Gambit Tiger 2.0 256MB Athlon 1200 2711 29 -29 583 58% 2652
9 Junior 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2687 28 -28 623 57% 2637
10 Hiarcs 8.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2680 26 -26 738 55% 2642
11 Rebel Century 4.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2675 29 -29 590 60% 2604
12 Shredder 5.32 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2662 27 -27 659 53% 2642
13 Gandalf 4.32h 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2651 34 -33 430 54% 2623
14 Gandalf 5.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2640 49 -50 202 46% 2671
15 Gandalf 5.1 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2637 25 -25 758 55% 2603
16 Gromit 3.11.9 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2622 57 -59 148 45% 2661
17 Crafty 18.12/CB 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2612 27 -27 647 52% 2601
And a separate rating list for the K6-450 Mhz where the difference is already
less than 40 Points considerating doubling the hardware's speed of Chess Tiger
15 from 1.2 Ghz to K6 450 Mhz. But as you increase the Hardware's speed the
diminishing effect from 1.2 Ghz to XP 2400+ might be even lower than 35 points
and eventually it will reach a point where doubling the processor's speed will
become useless.
01 Chess Tiger 15.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2679 50 -48 210 60% 2607
02 Deep Fritz 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2648 22 -22 1031 59% 2582
03 Deep Fritz 7.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2645 52 -51 184 54% 2616
04 Gambit Tiger 2.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2641 29 -28 634 66% 2526
05 Junior 7.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2633 24 -23 925 62% 2546
06 Fritz 7.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2631 38 -37 348 53% 2608
07 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2629 26 -25 753 59% 2565
08 Fritz 6.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2620 21 -21 1154 60% 2550
09 Shredder 6.0 UCI 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2617 43 -43 264 52% 2607
10 Shredder 5.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2606 28 -27 639 58% 2549
11 Junior 6.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2590 18 -17 1605 56% 2549
12 Hiarcs 8.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2587 37 -38 344 44% 2626
13 Shredder 5.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2587 20 -20 1217 55% 2551
14 Rebel Century 4.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2566 52 -53 178 46% 2592
15 Nimzo 8.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2554 22 -22 1011 49% 2559
16 Nimzo 7.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2552 21 -21 1130 53% 2531
17 Gandalf 5.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2535 73 -68 102 60% 2461
18 Gandalf 4.32f 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2532 28 -28 627 51% 2525
19 Hiarcs 7.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2529 20 -20 1260 45% 2564
20 Gandalf 4.32h 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2521 34 -34 418 52% 2506
21 SOS 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2518 18 -18 1514 44% 2562
22 Rebel Century 3.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2518 30 -30 546 49% 2523
23 Chessmaster 8000 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2515 44 -45 251 45% 2548
24 Goliath Light 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2510 22 -23 992 39% 2588
25 Crafty 17.07/CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2490 23 -23 912 47% 2514
26 MChess Pro 8.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2478 25 -26 753 40% 2549
27 Crafty 18.12/CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2476 32 -34 471 36% 2578
28 Genius 6.5 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2474 29 -29 565 48% 2488
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