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Subject: Re: Ultimate Use of Suites of Test Positions???

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 17:18:45 12/06/02

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On December 06, 2002 at 20:11:31, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On December 06, 2002 at 19:48:09, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
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>
>>Also a debate between you and me and others here is the best what could happen
>>because that is interdisciplinary cooperation. You could bring the very best of
>>your talents into the debate because others might go visiting on too many
>>tangents... then you organize the recovery!
>>
>>Rolf Tueschen
>
>My debating skills are worse than those of a newborn baby!  I know my
>limitations.  That is my one great strength [I think.]  Besides, there are other
>productive formats for discourse besides debate.
>_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>
>But I would like to get back to your ideas regarding chess software.
>
>In particular, your feeling that it would not be possible to measure the
>strength of a chess engine [or a human either, for that matter] by using a set
>of test positions.
>
>When students graduates from college with a Bachelor's Degree, here in the USA,
>they are encouraged to take a comprehensive exam which is intended to indicate
>whether or not the student learned anything. [Versus wasting several years.]
>
>I had to take such a test.  As an electrical engineer, I was required to take
>the GRE Advanced Test in Engineering.  I did very well on that test and was
>admitted to Graduate School primarily for that reason.
>
>I would like to suggest that, if I had to take such a test, it is only fair that
>every chess engine should have to take an equivalent test too!
>
>The test would be very comprehensive.  It would include five or ten suites of
>test positions.  Perhaps 500 positions in all, minimum.  A new set of positions
>would be used each year.
>
>In the proposed scenario, the testing organization should have the
>responsibility and resources necessary to design and adjust the tests to match
>the SSDF results.
>
>In other words, I propose a comprehensive test which has, itself, been tested
>and verified against the SSDF [and similar] test data.
>
>If you stick to your guns on this, you will assert that the proposed idea would
>fail miserably.  Right?  But why would it fail?  Could you be specific, please?
>
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>Bob D.

You got me a bit on my left foot so it's better that I take a pocket full of
sleep. It's beyond 2 a.m. and the flow at my synapses is becomming thick.

Good night you irritating instructor!

Rolf Tueschen



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