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Subject: Re: Fritz 8 very much better than Fritz 7 !

Author: Wayne Lowrance

Date: 18:27:27 12/06/02

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On December 05, 2002 at 10:22:59, Bernhard Bauer wrote:

>On December 05, 2002 at 10:10:30, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>
>>On December 05, 2002 at 08:55:23, Bernhard Bauer wrote:
>>
>>Howdy, I disagree with you to a degree. To those hundreds (thousands ?) who
>>purchase a Computer Chess program looking for a improvement against other
>>programs  will be dissapointed, reports have been posted here already reporting
>>no improvement, making same move as it's predessor etc.
>
>What do you mean by *improvement*?

Improvement means  performance results worthy of a new realse and shell out of
50 bucks or whatever.

>If Fritz(x) solves some type of position which Fritz(x-1) didn't solve it is an
>improvement.

If it does not mean improved w/l/d performance then I dont consider buying the
program, period. It is not an improvement, just something a lil slicker to brag
about !

Your dissapointment can only mean that you expected something else.
>What?

Improved w/l/d performance, getting the idea now ?

>Eduard showed that Fritz(x) makes some other moves than Fritz(x-1).

But up to this posting reported posting have not demonstrated improved
performancew, there I go again  :)
>
>>>Better graphics etc is not enough for a new release, IMHO.
>>
>
>Why not?

Cause !

>
>regards
>Bernhard
>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Wayne
>>
>>PS I think that the many testers who post here tournament results against other
>>programs are not to thrilled either to test another new release that plays no
>>better.
>>
>>
>>
>>>On December 05, 2002 at 07:15:24, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Eduard
>>>>Wrong title: nullmove heuristic of Fritz8 being much better than with Fritz7
>>>>does not necessarly mean that Fritz8 is that much stronger.
>>>>Kurt
>>>
>>>I disagree.
>>>If Eduard is right, Fritz8 is much better than Fritz7.
>>>Much better in a lot of positions.
>>>Poor people who can only think in terms of SSDF-Elo points.
>>>Kind regards
>>>Bernhard



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