Author: Uri Blass
Date: 00:41:54 12/07/02
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On December 07, 2002 at 02:04:49, Ingo Althofer wrote: >On December 06, 2002 at 17:36:24, martin fierz wrote: > >>... i >>can assure you that LOTS of CC players only turn on their engine and enter the >>opponents move when they get it, and really don't find their own moves. instead, >>they go with the recommendation of the engine, >> >>or, if several moves are close in >>value, they may choose the second or third-best. these are the guys who don't >>find their moves themselves. > >Hello Martin, > >I would like to distinguish severely between > >* those players who only use the (single) best proposal of their program > >and > >* those who let run the program in 2-best or 3-best mode - finally selecting >from the two or three candidate moves shown. > >Such a multiple-choice mode can lead to a trememdous increase in >playing strength. Years ago I made such multiple choice experiments >in "over the board" chess, calling the system "Double-Fritz plus Boss": >Fritz4 computed its two best candidate moves and me (=the human boss) >always had the final choice amongst them. In two events in 1996 (the seven >round open tournament in Apolda, and a 4.5:3.5-win in an 8-games match >against GM Gennadi Timoscenko) "Double-Fritz plus Boss" scored around 200 >rating points better than Fritz4's own (SSDF) rating. > >Using computer proposals in multiple choice mode can be >a trememdous help (not only in chess). > >Ingo Althofer. I think that the help that you can get from two best mode is big when the programs are weak and when you use weak hardware and old programs 2 best mode can be better but when you use fast hardware and long time control I doubt if there is a big advantage from using them in 2 best mode. I usually used programs in one best mode when I gave them long analysis(it does not mean that I ignored the second best move and deep fritz has an option to ask it for the second best move so I also used it and I also analyzed positions some plies after the root in cases that I found them interesting). I also used more then one program so I could choose the program that I like more for long analysis. Uri
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