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Subject: Re: CSTal Paris PII-400 how many times shall i tell you

Author: Moritz Berger

Date: 13:52:30 09/17/98

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On September 17, 1998 at 16:42:04, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On September 17, 1998 at 15:56:14, Moritz Berger wrote:
>
>>Here's the 2 games from the 1st Sveshnikov Nunn position at tournament time
>>controls. I found the games to be very interesting, if not revealing. So please
>>do yourself a favor and take a look at the actual moves, not only the scores.
>>
>>The PII-400 (256 MB RAM) I used for CST (Paris version including new style from
>>www.oxford-softworks.com) is about 2.5 times as fast as the P233MMX (128 MB
>>RAM), according to the built-in CST benchmark.
>
>for how many time shall i tell you that the "paris" version that chris once
>put on the server is
>
>a) not the real paris version
>b) buggy and weak because of bugs
>c) only the cstblack.exe is the one that shall be used with the dos-version.
>I can send anybody who wants to get it, the version via email.
>it makes no sense imo to test a version that is obviously broken.
>This whole stuff about the "paris" version was posted in rgcc long time ago.
>still you use it.
>i have told torsten tschoop the same.
>
>i don't understand why you like to test a version that is broken.
>
>it is not the paris version. i know it better because i operated in paris.
>chris has taken any kind of version, maybe with closed eyes when he was drunken
>and called / named it PARIS.
>
>why do you use it when there is a stronger version (cstblack.exe) ?
>Any reason that would make sense ?

Dear Thorsten,

thanks for your interest, I appreciate your comments, but: You might not be
aware of the fact that I am no longer doing any beta testing for Chris
Whittington. Therefore, I use the only version that's available to the general
public.

On the oxford-softworks Website, I found the following statement:

<quote>
Chess System Tal was recently entered into the Paris Computer Chess
Championship. Here, it was placed an overall 10th out of 34 entrants due to “an
almighty bug”, as the author Chris Whittington described it, which affected the
program so much that it is incredible that it was able to play chess at all. Had
the bug been detected before the tournament, it is possible that Chess Tal would
have been overall winner.

Oxford Softworks is making the very latest version of the Chess program
available to existing users of the program from this website. If you already own
Chess System Tal (CD release), please follow this link to download the Paris
version (complete with bugs fixed!).
<endquote>

Much as I respect your work as a beta tester, I respect the wish of the
program's author to have the strongest version (in his opinion!) tested. I'm
sure that you will respect his personal choice also, after all, it might affect
his reputation in a negative way if the version you mentioned (which he removed
from his server for unknown reasons) doesn't perform well. It's his baby, so the
ultimate choice always should be his, no matter how much better you think your
judgement about versions could be.

Also, you have sent me an executable file black.exe some time ago via email, but
failed to include the changed resource and style files, thereby only wasting my
telephone bill. Maybe if you send me the complete set of files that are
required, I can repeat the match after the last game. Nice verification of your
claims that black.exe plays better ...

I will continue the match, because for ordinary customers like myself only the
CD version with the patch from manufacturer applied is available. This makes
some sense to me.

Moritz



P.S.: One advantage of the Nunn test: you are of course invited to play the same
match with any CST version you like vs. the commercially available Hiarcs 6.
This would even seem prudent to verify if your new version really plays better.



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