Author: Matt Taylor
Date: 11:57:16 12/07/02
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On December 07, 2002 at 14:44:46, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On December 07, 2002 at 14:23:04, Matt Taylor wrote: > >>On December 07, 2002 at 14:09:45, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On December 07, 2002 at 13:53:27, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>> >>>>On December 07, 2002 at 12:41:21, Fernando Villegas wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hi all: >>>>>Time ago I had for my Me Windows a "Rain" little program capable of cooling the >>>>>cpu. Now I use an Athlon and XP winows and it seems there is not an equivalent >>>>>to the rain thing. WAnybody knows what to do? I am afraid any day my PC will >>>>>just explode. >>>>>Fernando >>>> >>>> >>>>As you can see an AMD XP 2700+ runs as HOT as the latest P 4 2.80GHz >>>> >>>> Maximum Heat >>>> Dissipation >>>> >>>>AMD Athlon XP 2700+ (Thoroughbred-B) 68.3W 0.13-micron >>>>AMD Athlon XP 2800+ (Thoroughbred-B) 74.3W 0.13-micron >>>> >>>> >>>>Intel Pentium 4 2.66GHz (Northwood) 66.1W 0.13-micron >>>>Intel Pentium 4 2.80GHz (Northwood) 68.4W 0.13-micron >>> >>>3.06 Ghz is the 'standard' P4 now that's released. And just like >>>the 2800 XP i can't buy it yet in the shop, but perhaps soon :) >>> >>>i remember the previous generation P4 which ran up to 92 WATT >>>and the XP up to like 70 watt or so. >>> >>>XP simply got hotter and P4 well, we didn't test a P4 yet with >>>SMT = 2 :) >>> >>>I would love to know what a P4 with full SMT load is going to eat. >>>I count on 92 watt. >>> >>>> >>>>http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1718&p=3 >>>> >>>>Pichard >> >>Yeah, high-clocked P4s and AthlonXPs are miniature heating units. I hear Itanium >>is worse, though. :-) >> >>AMD actually requires a copper heatsink on all new Thoroughbred chips. I find >>that amazing considering I have an old Compaq 486SX 33 MHz sitting on my desk >>with the case off, and the CPU has no heatsink. In fact, it's generally cool to >>the touch, though it does heat up probably to ~45 C or so when it starts doing >>work. > >Supercomputer chips like Itanium2/McKinley are in a different league. >Dutch Government for example has only 1 national supercomputer with 1024 >processors. The other supercomputers the NWO has are way way smaller. > >We must not compare those with normal cpu chips but with the old >Cray machines which started at if i remember bob's statement well >around 500KWATT for just 4 processors. > >These chips take away a lot of research which otherwise actually must >get done physically, which eats more resources. > >Completely in contradiction to the majority of pc >chips which get used for simple business work which in theory a small >pc from 10 years ago can do too, or games which even more power :) > >There were very good chips from MIPS which eated only like 0.5 watt >for 200Mhz. Of course competition pushes things to higher standards >and higher usage of power. > >A nasty side effect of all that power usage is that my dual K7 1.6ghz >is producing a lot of sound. > >>FYI Transmeta sells Crusoe, a 5W VLIW x86 CPU. It requires a heatsink, but it >>doesn't get very warm. They're working on Astro which is basically a Crusoe on >>steroids. (Crusoe = 4 atoms/molecule, Astro = 8 atoms/molecule.) >>-Matt You mean that you have loud fans? My AthlonMP 1600 system has ~50 dB Delta fans. My roommate tells me that it gets very quiet when he closes his door. :-) My AthlonMP 2000 system at work is pretty quiet though. I used the stock AMD heatsink/fan. -Matt
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