Author: Tony Hedlund
Date: 09:29:43 12/08/02
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On December 06, 2002 at 16:10:43, Harald Faber wrote: >On December 06, 2002 at 13:05:22, Tony Hedlund wrote: > >>On December 06, 2002 at 00:53:51, Harald Faber wrote: >> >>>On December 05, 2002 at 03:58:01, Tony Hedlund wrote: >>> >>>>Take a look at game 21. Shredder had a winning endgame, both programs showed >>>>mate in 9. But suddenly the game ended in a repetition draw! A bug in Shredder? >>>>Tony >>> >>>- This behaviour has been noticed with several engines before. >>>- It has ALWAYS been caused by incomplete tablebases. >>>- In this case AFAIK it is caused by the incomplete "Fritz endgame turbo". >>>- That is the reason why I call this "Fritz endgame turbo" a piece of shit. >>>- The question arises: WHY does SSDF use the Fritz endgame turbo? IIRC SSDF only >>>tests chess programs kind of "out of the box". The Fritz endgame turbo is no >>>part of Shredder 6/7 nor any other CB chess program. Why do you use it? >> >>You provide the answer yourself in your last sentence. >> >>>- Why aren't the programs tested by using their provided package? So when there >>>are some 4- and 5-man tbs on the released CD, install them for that specific >>>program. >> >>It's done. > > >Haven't you written to test with the Fritz endgame turbo? This is NO part of any >ChessBase playing program. Yes, but I also use the provided tb's. In the Shredder Classical GUI you can have two path's to tb's. Tony > >>>- The problem with incomplete tbs is well known, also for you. >> >>I wasn't aware that Shredder had this bug. Yes, I agree with Bob that it *IS* a >>program bug. > > >This bug happens not only to Shredder. Several (all?) CB-engines show the same >behaviour and I am not sure whether the ChessPartner programs also behave like >that. Anyway this - bug - is known since ages and has been reported here and on >other computer chess boards frequently.
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