Author: Serge Desmarais
Date: 16:08:56 09/17/98
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On September 17, 1998 at 10:10:37, Roberto Waldteufel wrote: > >On September 16, 1998 at 21:20:31, Serge Desmarais wrote: > >>On September 15, 1998 at 17:19:30, Roberto Waldteufel wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> [snip] >>> >>>Hi Bob, >>> >>>In fact, the laws of chess are very specific about draw offers. >>> >>>1) It is only allowed to offer a draw when it is your turn to play, not while >>>your opponent is thinking (or searching). >> >> >> >>In my 1993 FIDE rule, it says you CAN offer a draw on your opponent's time, but >>if he complains about that to the arbiter, you would get reprimmended. If your >>opponent accept the draw offer, then it has no consequences. I did not >>check/know if the FIDE changed this rule? >> >> >>Serge Desmarais >> >> >>[snip] >> > >Hi Serge, > >My understanding is that you are not allowed to do this, although it is not >considered too heinous a misdemeanour. That is why you get a reprimand from the >arbiter. If you persist in offering draws on your opponent's time, the arbiter >can be more severe. In fact, if you should offer a draw before moving, your >opponent has the right to insist on seeing your move before deciding whether or >not to accept your draw offer. The only correct time to offer the draw is after >making your move and before pressing your clock. Having made the offer, you >press your clock and your opponent decides in his time whether or not to accept >it. > >If we are going into detail, the recent changes to the laws introduced a new >requirement that draw offers must also be recorded in the game score kept by the >players (by an = after the move). > >Best wishes, >Roberto Yes, I remember reading that in the Echec + magazine, a few months ago. Though it's been a little while since I played in a tournament. Also I wrote, last year in r.g.c.c. that for me it was not totally correct for a computer to FORCE a draw according to the 50 move rules and the 3 repetitions, when it acts as a referree. ONE of the players HAVE to claim it! Actually, the programs DECIDE the game is a draw after 3 repetitions. So, you cannot EXACTLY reproduce games in which these occured WITHOUT a player claiming the draw. This is as well in some games/match from the past. If I remember, in one of the Championship matches between Steinitz and Zukertort, the match rules said that one needed FOUR repetitions before it could be possible to claim a draw. Of course, it is only a detail that would not change the outcome of the game, nor its final position. It can just make it one or a few moves shorter than the real one, but for the time controls and exactitude, it is not too tough to implement. For the new protocol, it was suggested earlier that the Winboard like interface could handle these situations. So, the arbiter would/could impose a draw on the programs even if none asked for it? Serge Desmarais
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