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Subject: Re: Quiet Equal Positions & Maneuvering

Author: scott farrell

Date: 05:11:23 12/09/02

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On December 08, 2002 at 11:05:44, Bob Durrett wrote:

what do you think searching deeper and deeper in a normal engine does?

It looks to move pieces around and find weaknesses, without making any
themselves, and keep testing tactics. I wouldnt say they were clueless.

In these sorts of positions, you find most program get less depth, as you cant
prune as much, unless its a closed position, then the depth sky rockets, as it
cant really find anyway to move pieces effectively.

>
>How well do chess engines do when the position, after opponent made his/her
>move, is quiet and equal?
>
>The chess literature has much to say about how human GMs treat such positions.
>They maneuver in an attempt to create weaknesses in the opponent's position
>while avoiding creation of weaknesses in their own camp.  It often happens that
>the GMs accept some weaknesses if they are perceived to be not as significant as
>those created in the opponent's camp.
>
>This is one kind of positional chess.
>
>My impression is that all modern chess engines are "as clueless as a newborn
>baby" in such positions.  Is that a fair assessment?
>
>If it is true that modern chess engines currently are not programmed to do the
>kind of maneuvering described above, would it be difficult to do that
>programming?  Are there any "show stoppers"?
>
>Bob D.



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