Author: Uri Blass
Date: 06:48:16 12/10/02
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On December 10, 2002 at 07:34:37, Richard Pijl wrote: >On December 10, 2002 at 05:32:55, David Rasmussen wrote: > >>This was a game played between Chezzz and ArasanX on ICC: >> >>[Event "ICS Rated Standard match"] >>[Site "chessclub.com"] >>[Date "2002.12.10"] >>[Round "-"] >>[White "Chezzz"] >>[Black "ArasanX"] >>[Result "*"] >>[WhiteElo "2492"] >>[BlackElo "2464"] >>[TimeControl "900"] >> >>1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nf3 Bg7 4. Nc3 O-O 5. e4 d6 6. Be3 Nbd7 7. Nd2 c5 8. >>dxc5 Nxc5 9. Be2 Ne8 10. Qc2 f5 11. Bxc5 dxc5 12. O-O Nd6 13. Bd3 Bd4 14. >>Rae1 e5 15. Nf3 fxe4 16. Bxe4 Nxe4 17. Qxe4 Rf4 18. Qd5+ Qxd5 19. cxd5 b6 >>20. Re3 Bxe3 21. fxe3 Rf5 22. Rf2 Kg7 23. e4 Rh5 24. h3 Ba6 25. g4 Rxh3 26. >>Nxe5 Rg3+ 27. Kh2 Re3 28. Rf7+ Kg8 29. Kg2 Re1 30. d6 Bc4 31. Re7 Ba6 32. >>d7 Rf1 33. Nd5 Bb5 34. a4 Rd8 >>* >> >>ArasanX resigned here, I don't know why it doesn't say that in the pgn tags. >> >>Anyway, I think the programs disagreed wildly about the merit of whites 20. Re3. >>As I am infinitely weaker than Chezzz, I didn't know what to think, but it >>looked speculative to me, and Chezzz is not a very speculative program, it >>doesn't have any speculatively large evaluations for any positional terms, that >>aren't decisive. So what do other engines think here, and what do they think >>about the move 20. Re3? >> >>[D]r1b3k1/p6p/1p4p1/2pPp3/3b1r2/2N2N2/PP3PPP/4RRK1 w - - 0 20 > >The white position has a few problems: >- The pawn on d5 cannot be defended by an additional piece >- The bishop on d4 outside the pawn chain limits the white piece mobility >- The rook on f1 is closed in > >By playing Re3 white solves all of these problems and gets a supported passer >for it. >The Baron 0.99.4b1 will not play Re3, but plays Ne2 instead. Which solves whites >problems as well. > >The Baron (mobile pentium II-500): > > ply time nodes score pv > 5( 7)& 0 21510 -6 c3e2 f4f7 e2c3 d4c3 b2c3 > 5( 7). 0 29876 -6 c3e2 f4f7 e2c3 d4c3 b2c3 > 6( 8)& 0 43792 3 c3e2 f4f8 e2d4 e5d4 e1e7 c8a6 > 6( 9). 0 63205 3 c3e2 f4f8 e2d4 e5d4 e1e7 c8a6 > 7(10)& 0 95676 -24 c3e2 f4f5 e2g3 f5f3 g2f3 c8h3 b2b3 > 7(11)& 1 125428 16 f3e5 c8a6 g2g3 f4f6 e5g4 f6d6 g4h6 > 7(11). 1 155100 16 f3e5 c8a6 g2g3 f4f6 e5g4 f6d6 g4h6 > 8(13)& 2 291640 9 c3e2 f4f8 e2d4 e5d4 e1e7 f8d8 f3g5 c8f5 > 8(13). 2 336154 9 c3e2 f4f8 e2d4 e5d4 e1e7 f8d8 f3g5 c8f5 > 9(14)& 4 598883 -2 c3e2 f4f8 e2d4 e5d4 e1e7 f8d8 f1e1 d8d5 f3e5 > 9(14). 9 1129316 -2 c3e2 f4f8 e2d4 e5d4 e1e7 f8d8 f1e1 d8d5 f3e5 > 10(15)& 12 1488254 -14 c3e2 f4f8 e2d4 e5d4 e1e7 f8d8 f1e1 d8d5 e7e8 >g8g7 e1e7 > 10(16). 21 2572771 -14 c3e2 f4f8 e2d4 e5d4 e1e7 f8d8 f1e1 d8d5 e7e8 >g8g7 e1e7 > 11(17)& 31 3654261 -10 c3e2 f4f5 e2d4 e5d4 e1e8 f5f8 e8f8 g8f8 f1e1 >c8f5 d5d6 a8d8 e1e7 > 11(17). 65 7482982 -10 c3e2 f4f5 e2d4 e5d4 e1e8 f5f8 e8f8 g8f8 f1e1 >c8f5 d5d6 a8d8 > 12(18)& 102 11457628 -9 c3e2 f4f3 g2f3 c8h3 e2d4 e5d4 e1e7 h3f1 g1f1 >a8d8 > 12(18). 191 20535912 -9 c3e2 f4f3 g2f3 c8h3 e2d4 e5d4 e1e7 h3f1 g1f1 >a8d8 > 13(19)& 258 28045831 -7 c3e2 f4f3 g2f3 c8h3 e2d4 e5d4 e1e7 h3f1 g1f1 >a8d8 e7a7 > >After Re3: > > ply time nodes score pv > 5( 7)& 0 11661 174 c8a6 e3e1 a6f1 g1f1 g8g7 > 5( 8). 0 14965 174 c8a6 e3e1 a6f1 g1f1 g8g7 > 6( 8)& 0 30253 147 c8a6 f1e1 d4e3 e1e3 f4b4 d5d6 > 6(11). 0 54223 147 c8a6 f1e1 d4e3 e1e3 f4b4 d5d6 > 7(10)& 0 73080 120 c8a6 f1e1 d4e3 e1e3 a8d8 e3e5 g8g7 > 7(12). 1 149263 120 c8a6 f1e1 d4e3 e1e3 a8d8 e3e5 g8g7 > 8(12)& 1 207365 113 c8a6 f1e1 d4e3 e1e3 a8e8 e3e5 e8e5 f3e5 > 8(13). 3 374199 113 c8a6 f1e1 d4e3 e1e3 a8e8 e3e5 e8e5 f3e5 > 9(14)& 4 511985 113 c8a6 f1e1 d4e3 e1e3 g8g7 f3e5 f4b4 b2b3 a8e8 > 9(14)& 5 617043 128 d4e3 f2e3 f4f5 g2g4 f5f7 f3e5 f7e7 e5c6 e7e3 > 9(15). 7 893522 128 d4e3 f2e3 f4f5 g2g4 f5f7 f3e5 f7e7 e5c6 e7e3 > 10(15)& 10 1264700 102 d4e3 f2e3 f4f8 f1e1 f8f5 e3e4 f5h5 g1f2 c8d7 >a2a3 > 10(17). 46 5100976 102 d4e3 f2e3 f4f8 f1e1 f8f5 e3e4 f5h5 g1f2 c8d7 >a2a3 > 11(17)& 60 6680873 126 d4e3 f2e3 f4f5 f1f2 g8g7 c3e4 c8b7 > 11(18). 89 9788608 126 d4e3 f2e3 f4f5 f1f2 g8g7 c3e4 c8b7 > 12(18)& 112 12379096 121 d4e3 f2e3 f4f5 e3e4 f5h5 h2h3 c8a6 f1d1 a8d8 >g1f2 g8f7 > 12(19). 177 19368010 121 d4e3 f2e3 f4f5 e3e4 f5h5 h2h3 c8a6 f1d1 a8d8 >g1f2 g8f7 > 13(20)& 232 25685025 131 d4e3 f2e3 f4f5 f1f2 g8g7 d5d6 f5h5 c3e4 c8g4 >e4g3 g4f3 g2f3 h5h4 > 13(21). 375 40929285 131 d4e3 f2e3 f4f5 f1f2 g8g7 d5d6 f5h5 c3e4 c8g4 >e4g3 g4f3 g2f3 h5h4 > >I'll try this position when I get home with other (newer) Baron versions. If the >results differ much I'll post them again. > >Imo Arasan could have done better with 25..Raf8 instead of Rg3+. The mistake >that gave the win to Chezzz was 29..Re1 instead of 29..Raf8 (again) > >Richard or 29...Rd3 Movei(p850) likes also Rf8 but changes it's mind later to 29...Rd3 depth=12 +1.08 e3d3 f7f2 d3d4 e5c6 a8e8 a2a3 g8g7 c6d4 c5d4 c3e2 e8e4 e2f4 Nodes: 36916330 NPS: 185053 Time: 00:03:19.49 depth=13 +1.10 e3d3 f7f2 d3d4 e5c6 a8e8 g2h2 g8g7 c6d4 c5d4 c3d1 e8e4 h2g3 a6e2 Nodes: 58499483 NPS: 182753 Time: 00:05:20.10 Uri
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