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Subject: Re: Positional Test(analysis by yace only material)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 14:04:07 12/10/02

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On December 10, 2002 at 16:49:07, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 10, 2002 at 16:33:19, Chris Hull wrote:
>
>>In a previous thread, someone was asking about positional factors that go into
>>an evaluation. Below, I have created a made up postion that is purely positional
>>with no tactics. See what score your engines give in the following positional
>>evaluations categories.
>>
>>1. space
>>2. mobility (white has 43 move vs 19 for black)
>>3. control of center
>>4. king safety
>>5. development (white is 16 developing moves ahead)
>>6. pawn structure
>>7. anything else you use for positional evaluation
>>
>>[D]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/3P4/2PNPP2/P1NBB2P/1P3QP1/3R1RK1 w kq - 0 1
>>
>>Chris
>
>Movei can see +2.xx from depth 1
>
>depth=10 +2.46 e4e5 c7c5 d5c6 d7c6 d4b3 b8d7 d3e4 a7a6 f4f5 f7f6
>Nodes: 3475313 NPS: 124074
>Time: 00:00:28.01
>depth=11 +2.27 e4e5 c7c5 d5c6 d7c6 d4b3 b8d7 d3e4 a7a5 f2h4 g8h6 e3d4
>Nodes: 8062560 NPS: 127652
>Time: 00:01:03.16
>depth=12 +2.34 e4e5 d7d6 f2c2 g7g6 e5e6 f8h6 c2a4 e8f8 e6f7 f8f7 d4e6 c8e6 d5e6
>f7e6 f4f5 e6e5 a4a5 d6d5 c3d5 g6f5 f1f5
>Nodes: 36919221 NPS: 131717
>Time: 00:04:40.29
>
>Uri

Yace only material with the following values claims that it is tactics.
pawn=0.8
knigh=3.4
bishop=3.5
rook=5
queen=10.01

New position
[D]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/3P4/2PNPP2/P1NBB2P/1P3QP1/3R1RK1 w kq - 0 1

Analysis by yace_mo:

1.d6 exd6
  µ  (-0.80)   Depth: 1   00:00:05
1.f5
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 1   00:00:05
1.f5 Nh6
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 2   00:00:05
1.f5 Nh6 2.Qd2
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 3   00:00:05
1.f5 Nh6 2.Qd2 a5
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 4   00:00:05
1.f5 Nh6 2.Qd2 a5 3.Ndb5
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 5   00:00:05  4kN
1.f5 Nh6 2.Qd2 a5 3.Ndb5 b6
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 6   00:00:05  13kN
1.f5 Nh6 2.Qd2 a5 3.Ndb5 b6 4.Bf2
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 7   00:00:06  37kN
1.f5 Nh6 2.Qd2 a5 3.Ndb5 b6 4.Bf2 g6
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 8   00:00:06  132kN
1.f5 Nh6 2.Qd2 a5 3.Ndb5 b6 4.Bf2 g6 5.fxg6
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 9   00:00:06  438kN
1.f5 Nh6 2.Qd2 a5 3.Ndb5 b6 4.Bf2 g6 5.fxg6 hxg6
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 10   00:00:07  934kN
1.f5 Nh6 2.Qd2 a5 3.Ndb5 b6 4.Bf2 g6 5.fxg6 hxg6 6.Be2 d6
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 11   00:00:11  3609kN
1.f5 d6 2.Be2 Nf6 3.e5 dxe5 4.Ne6 fxe6 5.dxe6 Nbd7 6.exd7+ Bxd7 7.Bxa7 Kf7
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 12   00:00:57  28599kN
1.e5 b6 2.e6 fxe6 3.dxe6 dxe6 4.Nf3 Nd7 5.Qg3 Nh6 6.Bg6+ hxg6 7.Qxg6+ Nf7 8.Ng5
Nde5 9.Rxd8+ Kxd8
  =  (0.01)   Depth: 12   00:02:14  71742kN
1.e5 b6 2.e6 Nh6 3.exf7+ Nxf7 4.Qc2 g6 5.Qa4 Bb7 6.Ne6 Qc8 7.Nxf8
  =  (0.10)   Depth: 12   00:02:54  94557kN
1.e5 b6 2.e6 Nh6 3.f5 Bb7 4.Bxh6 gxh6 5.exf7+ Kxf7 6.Ne6 Qc8 7.f6 dxe6 8.fxe7+
Ke8 9.exf8Q+ Kd7
  ²  (0.50)   Depth: 13   00:05:46  193739kN
1.e5 b6 2.e6 Nh6 3.f5 c5 4.dxc6 dxc6 5.exf7+
  ±  (0.80)   Depth: 13   00:09:33  324089kN

(blass, tel-aviv 11.12.2002)

Uri



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