Author: Laurence Chen
Date: 15:12:54 12/10/02
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On December 10, 2002 at 17:50:41, Uri Blass wrote: >On December 10, 2002 at 17:43:35, Ingo Lindam wrote: > >>On December 10, 2002 at 17:04:07, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>Yace only material with the following values claims that it is tactics. >>>pawn=0.8 >>>knigh=3.4 >>>bishop=3.5 >>>rook=5 >>>queen=10.01 >>> >>>New position >>>[D]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/3P4/2PNPP2/P1NBB2P/1P3QP1/3R1RK1 w kq - 0 1 >>> >>>Analysis by yace_mo: >>> >>>1.d6 exd6 >>> µ (-0.80) Depth: 1 00:00:05 >>>1.f5 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 1 00:00:05 >>>1.f5 Nh6 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 2 00:00:05 >>>1.f5 Nh6 2.Qd2 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 3 00:00:05 >>>1.f5 Nh6 2.Qd2 a5 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 4 00:00:05 >>>1.f5 Nh6 2.Qd2 a5 3.Ndb5 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 5 00:00:05 4kN >>>1.f5 Nh6 2.Qd2 a5 3.Ndb5 b6 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 6 00:00:05 13kN >>>1.f5 Nh6 2.Qd2 a5 3.Ndb5 b6 4.Bf2 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 7 00:00:06 37kN >>>1.f5 Nh6 2.Qd2 a5 3.Ndb5 b6 4.Bf2 g6 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 8 00:00:06 132kN >>>1.f5 Nh6 2.Qd2 a5 3.Ndb5 b6 4.Bf2 g6 5.fxg6 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 9 00:00:06 438kN >>>1.f5 Nh6 2.Qd2 a5 3.Ndb5 b6 4.Bf2 g6 5.fxg6 hxg6 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 10 00:00:07 934kN >>>1.f5 Nh6 2.Qd2 a5 3.Ndb5 b6 4.Bf2 g6 5.fxg6 hxg6 6.Be2 d6 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 11 00:00:11 3609kN >>>1.f5 d6 2.Be2 Nf6 3.e5 dxe5 4.Ne6 fxe6 5.dxe6 Nbd7 6.exd7+ Bxd7 7.Bxa7 Kf7 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 12 00:00:57 28599kN >>>1.e5 b6 2.e6 fxe6 3.dxe6 dxe6 4.Nf3 Nd7 5.Qg3 Nh6 6.Bg6+ hxg6 7.Qxg6+ Nf7 8.Ng5 >>>Nde5 9.Rxd8+ Kxd8 >>> = (0.01) Depth: 12 00:02:14 71742kN >>>1.e5 b6 2.e6 Nh6 3.exf7+ Nxf7 4.Qc2 g6 5.Qa4 Bb7 6.Ne6 Qc8 7.Nxf8 >>> = (0.10) Depth: 12 00:02:54 94557kN >>>1.e5 b6 2.e6 Nh6 3.f5 Bb7 4.Bxh6 gxh6 5.exf7+ Kxf7 6.Ne6 Qc8 7.f6 dxe6 8.fxe7+ >>>Ke8 9.exf8Q+ Kd7 >>> ² (0.50) Depth: 13 00:05:46 193739kN >>>1.e5 b6 2.e6 Nh6 3.f5 c5 4.dxc6 dxc6 5.exf7+ >>> ± (0.80) Depth: 13 00:09:33 324089kN >>> >>>(blass, tel-aviv 11.12.2002) >>> >>>Uri >> >>It shouldn't be surprising that a position offering a positional advantage >>contains also tactical possibilities... and also a tactical proof of the >>advantage if one is just able to look deep enough into the position/searchtree >>to find that proof, should it? >> >>I guess it doesn't surprise you, Uri. >> >>Internette Gruesse, >>Ingo > >Of course it does not surprise me > >I expected this and I did the analysis to contradict the claim that the position >has no tactics > >Yace kept the advantage also ar depth 14 > >1.e5 c6 2.dxc6 bxc6 3.Be4 Bb7 4.Ndb5 f5 5.exf6 Nxf6 6.Bf3 g6 7.Nxa7 d5 8.cxd5 >cxd5 > ± (0.80) Depth: 14 00:25:12 865117kN > >I guess that longer analysis can prove that white wins more material. > >Uri I believe that the person who was making the posts about Space advantage failed to understand that chess is 95% tactics and any temporary positional advantages, such as Space, will disappear if not converted into more permanent positional advantage. Laurence
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