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Subject: another assumption

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 16:23:21 12/10/02

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On December 10, 2002 at 19:20:46, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On December 10, 2002 at 18:52:57, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>how can a 2000 rated *ever* say that with 2000 lines of evaluation
>code you can get world champion. Even in assembly fritz doesn't
>manage to get it that small.

My assumption is that you find 2000 lines that much
compared to your current 200 lines that you are simply too
stubborn to be capable to imagine that 2000 lines won't
help you much further either in the professional/strong amateur
league.

Best regards,
Vincent

>And fritz didn't get world champion last 7 years despite having
>all other conditions perfect (good hardware always, parallel,
>very good book etcetera).
>
>Best regards,
>Vincent
>
>>On December 10, 2002 at 18:27:03, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On December 10, 2002 at 12:46:23, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 10, 2002 at 12:19:25, Nicolas GUIBERT wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I believe that 200 lines are not enough to have a top program but 2000 lines
>>>>>>with the right knowledge and good search algorithm may be enough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It may be interesting to know how many lines do programs like
>>>>>>Junior or Ruffian have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I probably have the same opinion as Vincent on this subject. Evaluation is
>>>>>extremely important and very often one single line does the same as 30-40 plies
>>>>>of search...
>>>>>
>>>>>The thing is also that when you know a lot about the game yourself you can't
>>>>>stand seeing your program play a stupid move because it does not understand
>>>>>something... And then you write down the thing on your to-do list... And finally
>>>>>implement the necessary thing...
>>>>
>>>>I know about chess more than other games.
>>>>I know about chess better than most programmers(my rating is close to 2000)
>>>
>>>you mean your correspondence rating?
>>
>>No
>>over the board rating and it is probably the last time that I answer your posts.
>>
>>>
>>>So not a national rating based upon 40 in 2 games.
>>>
>>>or are you just guessing here like Ed Schroeder used to do,
>>>guessing himself at 2000 national though i estimate him at 1300
>>>national.
>>
>>You always like to say bad things about other people and I bnever heard you
>>apologize about them.
>>
>>My Israeli rating(over the board) that is eqvivalent to fide rating is more than
>>2000.
>>
>>>
>>>So is this just like me guessing my draughts rating is 1600?
>>>
>>>Your chess comments here make me believe you are more like a 1400.
>>
>>You can believe what you want.
>>I am not going to continue this discussion.
>>
>>Uri



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