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Subject: Re: a real positional testposition

Author: John Merlino

Date: 17:10:10 12/12/02

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On December 12, 2002 at 17:15:04, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:

>[D]r1bqk1nr/p3p1bp/2ppPpp1/8/2B2B2/2N5/PPP2PPP/R2QK2R w KQkq -
>
>white prevents with 11.g4 the main idear of the black system the move ...f5 and
>the black bishop on g7 is very strong.
>
>As we know moves like this are too quiet for a lot of chessprograms.It is a
>general problem that they see mostly "positional" moves when the win is in x
>moves.
>
>But ok,nobody is perfect and we love them.
>
>[Event "VLGr.1, Post Bochum-Überruhr,Brett 2"]
>[Site "Mülheim an der Ruhr"]
>[Date "2001.01.21"]
>[Round  "5"]
>[White "Pewny"]
>[Black "Walbaum"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "B34"]
>[Time "22:11:30"]
>
>1 .e4 c5 2.Nf3 g6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 Nc6 6.Nxc6 bxc6 7.e5 Ng8 8.Bc4 Bg7
>9.Bf4 f6 10.e6 d6 11.g4 Rb8 12.Qf3 Rb4 13.Qxc6+ Kf8 14.O-O-O Bh6 15.Bxh6+ Nxh6
>16.f3
>Kg7 17.Qe4 Bb7 18.Nd5 Bxd5 19.Qxd5 Qc7 20.Bb3 Rc8 21.Rd4 Rxd4 22.Qxd4 Qa5 23.Rd1
>Rc7 24.Qd5 Qb4 25.Qd4 Qa5 26.Kb1 Qb5 27.Rd3 Rc5 28.a3 Qc6 29.Bd5 Qb5 30.c4 Qa4
>31.Ka2 a5 32.Rb3 Ng8 33.Rb8 Qc2 34.g5 a4 35.h4 h6 36.f4 hxg5 37.hxg5 Kh7 38.Qg1
>Rxd5
>39.Qh1+ Kg7 40.Qxd5  {} 1-0

Chessmaster 9000, on a P3-733, seems moderately pleased with 11.Qf3:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	0.87	4247		1.Qe2 Qb6 2.O-O-O f5
0:00	1/4	1.00	7302		1.Qe2 Qb6 2.O-O-O f5 3.Be3
0:00	1/5	0.87	17817		1.Qe2 f5 2.O-O-O Qa5 3.Qf3 Bb7
0:01	1/6	0.91	50530		1.Qe2 f5 2.O-O Qb6 3.Rab1 Nf6 4.Be3
0:01	1/6	1.05	80136		1.O-O d5 2.Nxd5 cxd5 3.Bxd5 Ba6
					4.Bxa8 Qxa8
0:03	1/7	1.00	165483		1.O-O Qb6 2.Qf3 Bb7 3.Rab1 f5 4.Be3
0:04	1/7	1.13	221624		1.Qf3 Qb6 2.O-O-O f5 3.Be3 Qb7
					4.Rhe1 Rb8
0:07	1/8	1.14	444308		1.Qf3 Bb7 2.Ba6 Qb6 3.Bxb7 Qxb7
					4.O-O f5 5.Rad1 Rb8
0:16	1/9	1.12	1193964		1.Qf3 Qb6 2.O-O Bb7 3.Rab1 d5 4.Be3
					d4 5.Na4 Qa5
0:40	1/10	1.00	3082314		1.Qf3 Qb6 2.O-O f5 3.Rad1 Bb7 4.Bd2
					Nf6 5.Na4 Qd4 6.Qb3
3:13	2/11	0.83	13988114	1.Qf3 Bb7 2.O-O f5 3.Ba6 Qb6 4.Bxb7
					Qxb7 5.Rad1 Nf6 6.Rfe1 O-O
10:58	3/12	0.88	48017959	1.Qf3 Bb7 2.g4 d5 3.O-O-O Qc8 4.Bb3
					Qxe6 5.Ba4 O-O-O 6.Rhe1 Qf7 7.Qg3

Relatively brief analysis shows that CM9000 thinks that 11.g4 is about a
half-pawn worse.

jm



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