Author: Mark Young
Date: 19:33:50 12/13/02
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On December 13, 2002 at 22:08:56, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>On December 13, 2002 at 17:11:31, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>On December 13, 2002 at 17:09:29, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>
>>>Have fun!
>>>
>>>P600, 128MB hash, Timecontrol 30':
>>>
>>>[Event "Blitz:30'"]
>>>[Site "?"]
>>>[Date "2002.??.??"]
>>>[Round "?"]
>>>[White "Eduard,Nemeth"]
>>>[Black "Fritz 8"]
>>>[ECO "B21"]
>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>
>>>1. e4 {0} c5 {0} 2. d4 {2} cxd4 {0} 3. Bc4 {3} Nc6 {0}
>>>4. a3 {5} Nf6 {-0.84/11 37} 5. Bd2 {4} Nxe4 {-2.00/12 54}
>>>6. Bxf7+ {6} Kxf7 {-2.31/11 20} 7. Qh5+ {4} Ke6 {-1.88/12
>>>107} 8. Qg4+ {3} Kd5 {-2.16/11 38} 9. b4 {94} Ne5 {-3.06/11
>>>124} 10. c4+ {26} dxc3 {-2.84/13 51} 11. Nxc3+ {4} Nxc3
>>>{-2.72/12 99} 12. Qh3 {30} Nb5 {-2.84/10 32} 13. Bf4 {66}
>>>d6 {-2.91/9 85} 14. Rd1+ {13} Kc6 {-2.44/10 33} 15. Rc1+
>>>{14} Kb6 {-0.53/12 22} 16. Qe3+ {63} Ka6 {0.28/12 25}
>>>17. a4 {16} b6 {0.28/10 7} 18. Qe4 {31} d5 {2.06/11 12}
>>>19. axb5+ {11} Kxb5 {6.28/12 10} 20. Qxe5 {19} Bg4 {6.28/11
>>>13} 21. Qc3 {18} Qc8 {6.37/11 3} 22. Qd3+ {5} Qc4 {6.75/13
>>>77} 23. Rxc4 {2} dxc4 {7.47/11 24} 24. Qd5+ {5} Ka4
>>>{7.75/11 69} 25. Qxa8 {7} 1-0
>>>
>>>
>>>After move 13. Bf4:
>>>
>>>[D]r1bq1b1r/pp1pp1pp/8/1n1kn3/1P3B2/P6Q/5PPP/R3K1NR b KQ -
>>>
>>>EN.
>>>
>>My World:
>>
>>http://www.beepworld.de/members37/computerschach/
>
>
>Hello, I think we played a few games on Fritz server some time ago.
>
>I tried youre crazy variation in a blitz game against Fritz 8 because I couldnt
>believe it. I had some problems to remember the moves, but I managed to reach
>the position after 12.Qh3. Fritz played 12...Na4, not Nb5. I didnt play the best
>moves several times afterwards but won nevertheless.
>
>[Event "Blitz:5'+2""]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "2002.12.14"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Drexel, Michael"]
>[Black "Fritz 8"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "B21"]
>[WhiteElo "2277"]
>[BlackElo "2893"]
>[Annotator "?"]
>[PlyCount "119"]
>
>{96MB, Elect2002.ctg, Athlon XP 1.66GHz
>} 1. e4 {1} 1... c5 {0} 2. d4 {6} 2... cxd4 {0}
>3. Bc4 {1} 3... Nc6 {12} 4. a3 {2} 4... Nf6 {16} 5. Bd2 {1} 5... Nxe4 {12} 6.
>Bxf7+ {1} 6... Kxf7 {10} 7. Qh5+ {0} 7... Ke6 {12} 8. Qg4+ {46} 8... Kd5 {0} 9.
>b4 {2} 9... Ne5 {13} 10. c4+ {2} 10... dxc3 {8} 11. Nxc3+ {1} 11... Nxc3 {10}
>12. Qh3 {4} 12... Na4 {19} 13. Qb3+ {21} 13... Ke4 {18} 14. g4 {12} 14... Nxg4
>{6
>} 15. f3+ {2} 15... Ke5 {3} 16. fxg4 {1} 16... d5 {8} 17. Nf3+ {3} 17... Kd6 {8
>} 18. Bf4+ {2} 18... e5 {8} 19. Nxe5 {2} 19... Ke6 {3} 20. Qxa4 {11} 20... Bd6
>{5} 21. O-O {15} 21... Qb6+ {0} 22. Kh1 {38} 22... Bxe5 {6} 23. Rae1 {2} 23...
>Qa6 {4} 24. Rxe5+ {31} 24... Kf7 {0} 25. Qd1 {18} 25... h5 {8} 26. Bg5+ {43}
>26... Kg8 {9} 27. Qxd5+ {6} 27... Be6 {6} 28. Qxe6+ {4} 28... Qxe6 {1} 29. Rxe6
>{1} 29... hxg4 {13} 30. Re7 {23} 30... Rh5 {0} 31. Bf4 {12} 31... Rf8 {6} 32.
>Kg2 {34} 32... a6 {0} 33. Rxb7 {2} 33... Rhf5 {8} 34. Rb6 {3} 34... Rxf4 {9}
>35. Rxf4 {2} 35... Rxf4 {2} 36. Rxa6 {0} 36... Kf7 {8} 37. b5 {5} 37... Ke7 {5}
>38. Kg3 {8} 38... Rd4 {7} 39. a4 {1} 39... Rb4 {9} 40. b6 {2} 40... Kd6 {6} 41.
>a5 {1} 41... Kd7 {3} 42. Ra7+ {1} 42... Kc8 {4} 43. Rxg7 {1} 43... Ra4 {3} 44.
>Ra7 {1} 44... Rb4 {5} 45. Rg7 {10} 45... Ra4 {5} 46. Ra7 {3} 46... Rb4 {5} 47.
>Kh4 {2} 47... Rb2 {6} 48. Kxg4 {2} 48... Rg2+ {4} 49. Kf4 {1} 49... Rxh2 {6}
>50. Ke5 {8} 50... Kb8 {5} 51. Kd6 {3} 51... Rh6+ {8} 52. Kc5 {0} 52... Rh5+ {3}
>53. Kc6 {3} 53... Rh6+ {0} 54. Kb5 {1} 54... Rh5+ {2} 55. Ka6 {1} 55... Rh8 {2}
>56. Rg7 {2} 56... Rd8 {8} 57. Rg5 {2} 57... Re8 {8} 58. Kb5 {2} 58... Rf8 {6}
>59. a6 {2} 59... Kc8 {1} 60. Rc5+ {2} 1-0
>
>After that I made a new opening tree with only this ´variation´ in it, trying to
>win with it on Fritz server against Fritz 8. Unfortunatley Junior 7 engine was
>the first opponent who played 1...c5 and not surprisingly choosed 7...Kg8. Bad
>luck I thought but Fritz 7 won this lost position anyway.
>
>
>Even if those are only Blitz games: There is much to improve.
>Im sure, Ruffian for example could win World Championship with a special
>´Anti-Computer´ opening book.
>Top-GMs could win against the best programs with ease, if they would develop
>sophisticated Anti-Computer strategies.
>
>Allerdings sind diese "Horizont-Effekt-Partien" auf die Dauer ziemlich
>langweilig und altbekannt. Außerdem erwähnst du nicht die unzähligen Versuche in
>denen deine Strategien nicht funktioniert haben.
>Spielt man mormales Schach hat man mit 2300 ELO oder darunter gegen die
>Top-Programme so gut wie keine Chance.
>
>Gruß
>
>Michael
What is the point of this line? Is not white lost with best play? Can you win
with white if you play at 3 min a move or even at Game 30' on fast computer, not
the out of date P 600 that was used?
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