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Subject: Re: Good Test. move.... at 11 Ply

Author: Art Basham

Date: 06:20:56 12/16/02

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Hi Mike....
Thanks! I thought it was a good test move...to see if our computer programs
"think" like a grandmaster thinks...etc.

It is taken from the "Test Your chess I Q"
Book One,
by Al Livshitz...(just loaded with neat test moves)!

The players were Bakulin vrs. Bronstein...
played at Kiev in 1965...
regards
Art
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On December 16, 2002 at 00:47:21, Mike S. wrote:

>On December 15, 2002 at 22:32:30, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On December 15, 2002 at 21:57:45, Art Basham wrote:
>>
>>>Gambit Tiger takes 11 ply to find....
>>>1.....Bd3! (Opening the g file for the Rook)...
>>>If 2. QxB, Rg1+ wins for black!
>>>[D]2k1r1r1/1pb2p2/p5b1/2qP4/2P2P2/4pP1p/P3Q2P/2RBRN1K b - - 0 1
>>
>>CM9000, on a P3-733, finds it in five seconds:
>>
>>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>>(...)
>>0:05	1/8	-4.58	394611		1...Bd3 2.Qxd3 Rg1+ 3.Kxg1 e2+
>>					4.Ne3 Rxe3 5.Kh1 Rxd3 6.Rxe2 Rxd5
>>					7.cxd5 Qxc1
>>0:07	1/9	-4.53	599248		1...Bd3 2.Qxd3 Rg1+ 3.Kxg1 e2+
>>					4.Ne3 Rxe3 5.Kh1 Rxd3 6.Rxe2 Rxd5
>>					7.cxd5 Qxc1 8.Re8+ Kd7
>>0:15	1/10	-5.27	1282458		1...Bd3 2.Qxd3 Rg1+ 3.Kxg1 e2+
>>					4.Ne3 Rxe3 5.Kh1 Rxd3 6.Bxe2 Qf2
>>					7.Bf1 Qxf3+ 8.Kg1 Qxf4 9.Rc2
>>0:57	2/11	-7.60	4797308		1...Bd3 2.Ng3 Bxe2 3.Nxe2 Ba5 4.Rf1
>>					Bd2 5.Rc2 Rg2 6.f5 b6 7.f4
>>1:45	3/12	-7.72	9335773		1...Bd3 2.Ng3 Bxe2 3.Nxe2 Ba5 4.Rf1
>>					Rg2 5.Ba4 Re7 6.Rc2 Qa3 7.Bb3 f5
>>5:03	4/13	-7.81	29015675	1...Bd3 2.Ng3 Bxe2 3.Nxe2 Rg2 4.Bc2
>>					Ba5 5.Bf5+ Kb8 6.Bxh3 Rf2 7.Nc3
>>					Qxc4 8.Ne4 Qxa2
>>
>>You should note that different programs report their search depth differently.
>>Fritz, from what I've been told, reports the MAXIMUM extension depth for the
>>given PV, whereas CM reports the MINIMUM extension depth. Other programs, like
>>Gambit Tiger, might do something different.
>
>I assume you mean the second number, which is displayed after the slash. I
>always wondered how The King remains in small depths (I mean the value before
>the slash), but still sees much, like above.
>
>Is it correct that the number before the slash basically is meant to be the
>"complete" of the search depth basically, while after the slash the extension's
>depth - min. or max. - is given?
>
>(I'm aware that "complete" will include forward pruning etc. too.)
>
>Another question (to Art), this seems a very nice tactical test position. Do you
>have source infos (game, tournament etc.)?
>
>Thanks,
>M.Scheidl
>
>
>P.S. List 5.04, P3/700 Mhz, 64 MB hash:
>
>Analysis by List 504:
>
>1...Qa3 2.Bc2 Bxf4 3.Bxg6 Rxg6 4.Red1
>  ³  (-0.53)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  8kN
>  ³  (-0.40)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  10kN
>1...Bxf4 2.Rc3 Re5 3.Bb3 Kb8 4.Rxe3 Bxe3 5.Nxe3 Qd6
>  µ  (-0.80)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  11kN
>  -+  (-1.72)   Depth: 9   00:00:03  1139kN
>1...Qd4 2.f5 Bxf5 3.Nxe3 Bd3 4.Qf2 Rg2 5.Nxg2 hxg2+ 6.Kxg2 Rg8+ 7.Qg3 Qb2+ 8.Be2
>  -+  (-2.12)   Depth: 9   00:00:04  1631kN
>  -+  (-3.56)   Depth: 12   00:00:20  8381kN
>1...Bd3 2.Ng3 Bxe2 3.Nxe2 Rg2 4.Ba4 Rh8 5.Bc2 Ba5 6.Nc3 e2 7.Bf5+ Kb8
>  -+  (-3.96)   Depth: 12   00:00:22  9337kN
>  -+  (-7.45)   Depth: 14   00:01:53  51117kN



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