Author: Uri Blass
Date: 08:43:08 12/17/02
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On December 17, 2002 at 11:40:29, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On December 17, 2002 at 09:22:54, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On December 17, 2002 at 08:32:20, Bob Durrett wrote: >> >>>On December 16, 2002 at 17:49:08, John Sidles wrote: >>> >>><snip> >>> >>>>> So on the average you can say 2800 or a bit more, >>>>> but it matters what you get. If you get a position >>>>> like what I had in game five then no human can fight it. >>>>> But if you get what I had in game two then you have >>>>> a chance. It very much depends on the opening stage. >>> >>><snip> >>> >>>I believe Kramnik was being honest when he said, in effect, that the opening >>>book is very very important. >>> >>>Perhaps the entire chess programming community has UNDERESTIMATED the importance >>>of opening books ??? [in games vs the top GMs] >>> >>>Bob D. >> >>I do not believe it. >> >>Not the opening book won the match but kramnik lost the match by doing stupid >>blunders. >> >>Uri > >Correct, but still, what would a computer program do without these beautiful >books? Now I expect the usual spin doctors telling me that programs already >played 20 moves of GM chess without books - but I don't believe them. If that >happens then the books are somewhere hidden. ;) > >Rolf Tueschen I think that it is dependent on the opening and I am sure that there are openings when programs have no problem to play 20 moves of GM's without book. Uri
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