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Subject: Re: Modern Chess Programming Goals: What are They?

Author: Russell Reagan

Date: 17:03:19 12/19/02

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On December 19, 2002 at 12:43:19, Bob Durrett wrote:

>For someone who is already a proficient programmer, there is still those three
>years of "internship."  Maybe it's OK for an intern to think of new ideas and
>new goals occasionally, but their primary objective must be "coming up to
>speed."  Too much innovative thinking, other than innovation in coding
>["implementation"] would be counter-productive for them.

I have gotten stuck in this rut many times. I get way ahead of myself, coming up
with ideas to try out for forward pruning or evaluation, only to realize that I
am still working on the move generator (or whatever). It kind of takes the wind
out of your sails when you have this idea you're itching to try out, but you
have to go chase down a bug in your move generator. Yuck.


>So, the real question, then, is about the programming goals of the
>"full-fledged" chess programmers like Hyatt, and a select few others. [Who?]
>
>What are these accomplished chess programmers working on nowadays?

I don't know what "they" are working on, but if I were them, here is what I'd be
working on. Theories develop over time. A theory is put forward, and it either
sticks of it doesn't. If it sticks, then eventually people find holes in it, and
over time those holes continually get patched up. At some point, all of those
patches become messy, and someone comes up with a new theory that will take care
of all of those "special cases". Then the process happens all over again, and we
have progress. I haven't been involved in computer chess for very long, but it
seems like there isn't a whole lot of inovative progress happening lately. Just
patching those holes. I would be looking for a new theory.

>The "Fritz programmers" are clearly in the business of trying to stay on top.
>It seems that they are really just barely staying ahead of the pack but not for
>long.  I would HATE to be trying to stay on top!

Maybe Bobby Fischer had the right idea. Show everyone that you are the best,
then vanish. No doubt that you'd burn out at some point if you put everything
you've got into something for a long time.

Russell



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