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Subject: Re: Fritz 8 is weak in Blitz?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 06:19:16 12/21/02

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On December 21, 2002 at 08:58:40, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On December 21, 2002 at 06:48:02, Torstein Hall wrote:
>
>>After trying F8 on the playchess server and in engine tournaments I find that F8
>>is not so good in Blitz games.
>
>I have the same impression. I also played an engine-engine match on an AMD 2200+
>at 5+3, 96 MB hash each, own book each, and DF7 beat F8 71-35.
>
>> My Playchess rating fell about 100 points when I
>>changed to F8 from F7. And in my Engine tournament it is trailing Fritz 7, Fritz
>>5.32 and Schredder 6.
>>Fritz 8 may be better in longer games
>
>I doubt it very much. I think DF7 is better here too.
>
>Enrique

I am interested to know if you tested Deep fritz7 and Fritz8 in your secret test
suite and if you found that Deep fritz7 is better(another question is if your
tests suggest smaller difference at longer time control and if Fritz8 get closer
to Deep Fritz7 at longer time control).

It may be also interesting to know results of knightdreamer in your secret test
suite(the author of knoghtdreamer claims that knightdreamer is good in tactics).

It may be also interesting to know result of my latest movei in it but you may
wait because I plan to improve the tactical strength of movei in the future and
there are other interesting programs like Ruffian or List to test(unless you
already tested them).

Movei is alreay faster than Crafty in some tactical positions but I guess that
Crafty is still better than movei in your tactical test suite(It seems not to be
the case in the GCP test suite based on part of the results of that test suite
but movei is training on this test suite so it is not fair to compare on test
suite when I know the positions).

Note that I do not say that movei is tuned for the gcp test suite because I only
add changes that I believe that are good for games but part of my changes are
results of analysis of failures in the gcp test suite so the changes that I do
are not random changes to make the program better.

Uri



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