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Subject: Re: Fritz 8 is weak in Blitz?

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 06:36:01 12/21/02

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On December 21, 2002 at 09:19:16, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 21, 2002 at 08:58:40, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>>On December 21, 2002 at 06:48:02, Torstein Hall wrote:
>>
>>>After trying F8 on the playchess server and in engine tournaments I find that F8
>>>is not so good in Blitz games.
>>
>>I have the same impression. I also played an engine-engine match on an AMD 2200+
>>at 5+3, 96 MB hash each, own book each, and DF7 beat F8 71-35.
>>
>>> My Playchess rating fell about 100 points when I
>>>changed to F8 from F7. And in my Engine tournament it is trailing Fritz 7, Fritz
>>>5.32 and Schredder 6.
>>>Fritz 8 may be better in longer games
>>
>>I doubt it very much. I think DF7 is better here too.
>>
>>Enrique
>
>I am interested to know if you tested Deep fritz7 and Fritz8 in your secret test
>suite and if you found that Deep fritz7 is better

DF7 scored better than F8, but not by much, only 11 points.

>(another question is if your
>tests suggest smaller difference at longer time control and if Fritz8 get closer
>to Deep Fritz7 at longer time control).

I only use my test at slow time controls.

>It may be also interesting to know results of knightdreamer in your secret test
>suite(the author of knoghtdreamer claims that knightdreamer is good in tactics).

I don't have it.

>It may be also interesting to know result of my latest movei in it but you may
>wait because I plan to improve the tactical strength of movei in the future and
>there are other interesting programs like Ruffian or List to test(unless you
>already tested them).
>
>Movei is alreay faster than Crafty in some tactical positions but I guess that
>Crafty is still better than movei in your tactical test suite(It seems not to be
>the case in the GCP test suite based on part of the results of that test suite
>but movei is training on this test suite so it is not fair to compare on test
>suite when I know the positions).
>
>Note that I do not say that movei is tuned for the gcp test suite because I only
>add changes that I believe that are good for games but part of my changes are
>results of analysis of failures in the gcp test suite so the changes that I do
>are not random changes to make the program better.
>
>Uri

I'll be glad to test Movei whenever you wish. Let me know.

Enrique



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