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Subject: Re: About testing and tests suits

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 07:54:58 12/21/02

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On December 21, 2002 at 10:10:38, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 21, 2002 at 09:58:10, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>This time no murdering intended, assured!
>>
>>Let me please ask you a couple of very basic questions. Perhaps they are so
>>basic that nobody really thought about it before.
>>
>>
>>In a little thread about the question if Fritz 8 is weker than Fritz 7 I read
>>certain remarks without further explanation and I was really surprised.
>>
>>Uri is asking Prof. Irazoqui, if he had already tested so and so in his "secret
>>test suite".
>>
>>What is a secret test suite??
>
>This is a tactical test suite but the positions are not known.
>The last fact is important because when the positions are known
>programmers may be influenced by the positions in implementing tactical
>knowledge.
>
>Enrique found that in most of the cases result in his secret tactical test suite
>gave good prediction for the results in the ssdf list.
>
>I guess that the reason is that in most of the cases rhere are no big difference
>in positional strength between programs and the program that is better in
>tactics is also the better program.
>
>>
>>Then the addressed answered I'll be glad to "test" your Movei.
>>
>>What is meant with "I'll test"??
>>
>>Further.
>
>It means that he will give it a lot of positions to solve and use the times of
>the solutions to calculate a score for it.
>
>Uri

Tanks, but what is a "score"? I hope that you don't have the feeling as if I
wanted to play games here. I swear that I ask questions with a very reasonable
and basic importance. I hope you will believe me.

And IF the programmers had the possibility to "cheat" when they know the
positions, what could a "tester" do in his position? Again, this is NOT making
allegations against certain persons, it is all basic for the understanding of
such acting and events

Rolf Tueschen



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