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Subject: Re: For programmers that their program is at least close to crafty level

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 17:16:26 12/22/02

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On December 22, 2002 at 09:35:21, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On December 21, 2002 at 22:20:21, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>
>>On December 21, 2002 at 21:10:27, Bob Durrett wrote:
>>
>>>On December 21, 2002 at 16:26:14, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 21, 2002 at 16:19:44, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 21, 2002 at 15:06:50, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On December 21, 2002 at 14:38:36, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On December 21, 2002 at 14:13:42, Russell Reagan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On December 21, 2002 at 12:49:34, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I believe that I have ideas that can help your program to get to commercial
>>>>>>>>>level or better than it in the next year.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have a hard time believing this. If you were serious about this, you could
>>>>>>>>spend the time to implement known ideas, and then you'd have a program
>>>>>>>>approximately on Crafty's playing level. Then you could spend a year adding your
>>>>>>>>revolutionary ideas, and you could sell it and then you would get 100% of the
>>>>>>>>profits instead of having to split it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you have so many great ideas, why is Movei not commercial strength (or even
>>>>>>>>close)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Took the words right out of my mouth
>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>Wayne
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I plan to continue to improve the strength of movei and maybe when it gets
>>>>>>closer to be commercial strength there is going to be bigger chance that people
>>>>>>are going to be interested in buying my ideas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am going to release a new version in the near future.
>>>>>>It is still not close to be commercial level but clearly better than the public
>>>>>>version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Movei of today still knows nothing about king safety and almost nothing about
>>>>>>pawn structure(only double pawns) but I plan to improve it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>So what's your problem that you can do something better with someone ELSES
>>>>>program?
>>>>>Is there some banned substance in Israel or something?
>>>>>S.Taylor
>>>>
>>>>I believe that my talent is ideas and not programming.
>>>>I do not think about changing the source code of another program but about
>>>>telling ideas that can help to improve programs.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>You know, I feel the same way!  : )
>>>
>>>ALL JOKING ASIDE:
>>>
>>>The problem is one of marketing.  How do I convince anybody to invest in my
>>>ideas?  How does anybody do that?
>>>
>>>That's not limited to chess engine ideas.  The marketing and selling problems
>>>are very real.
>>>
>>>Maybe a person with many good ideas but short on certain skills, whatever they
>>>may be, should form a company and surround himself with good people who supply
>>>the missing skills.
>>>
>>>The problem is one of investment.  If you hire an employee, you must offer a
>>>competitive employment package.  Where will the money come from?
>>>
>>>An alternative would be for two or more people to form a partnership.  Each
>>>partner would contribute skills and talents not provided by others.
>>>
>>>If Uri is loaded with good ideas, [and why not?] then he might find a
>>>crackerjack programmer to become his partner.  Together they assume all the
>>>risks.  If success comes, they are both happy.  If not, they cry together.
>>>
>>>Investment is another problem.  If it takes two years to get return on
>>>investment, who will put the food on the table in the meantime?
>>>
>>>I truly believe that several regular contributors to this bulletin board could
>>>form a viable p
>>artnership.  It's just a matter of having sound business sense
>>>and a whole lot of work.
>>>
>>>Bob D.
>>
>>But first you have to prove that your ideas relate to improved performance. Thus
>>far your program does not demonstrate this
>>Thank ou
>>Wayne
>
>I can absolutely guarantee, in all honesty, that I do NOT have a program that
>performs worse than the best program in the world.  : )
Maybe that's the best program. Unless you can come up with something worse.
S.Taylor



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