Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 17:00:56 12/23/02
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On December 23, 2002 at 12:00:14, Uri Blass wrote: >On December 23, 2002 at 11:54:37, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On December 23, 2002 at 10:57:19, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On December 23, 2002 at 10:14:47, Sune Fischer wrote: >>> >>>>On December 23, 2002 at 10:05:20, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 23, 2002 at 09:59:44, Sune Fischer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>what i meant to say is that it's a peanut to solve WAC 002 >>>>>if you do not have the in quadrant rule. with the pawn on e3 >>>>>still the white king is within the quadrant of the pawns. >>>>> >>>>>So it is amazing for me how some programs can solve this at 8 or 9 >>>>>ply. Most commercials only solve this when they actually see a queen >>>>>on the board for black which can't get captured (or gets recaptured >>>>>to queen again). >>>> >>>>Even if you give a high score for passed pawn duos you are a whole rook behind >>>>because of the sacrifice, I doubt any program will find it for positional >>>>reasons. >>> >>>==> Crafty >> >>Wrong again. Why don't you try this stuff _first_??? > >I guess that he means to old crafty that could find it at depth 4. Then he should say "old crafty"... > >New position >[D]8/7p/5k2/5p2/p1p2P2/Pr1pPK2/1P1R3P/8 b - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Crafty 15.18: > >1...Kf6-e6 > -+ (-1.65) Depth: 1 00:00:00 >1...Kf6-e6 2.e3-e4 > -+ (-1.58) Depth: 2 00:00:00 >1...Kf6-e6 2.e3-e4 f5xe4+ 3.Kf3xe4 h7-h5 > µ (-1.09) Depth: 3 00:00:00 >1...c4-c3 > µ (-1.39) Depth: 3 00:00:00 >1...c4-c3 2.b2xc3 Rb3xc3 3.Rd2-a2 > -+ (-1.52) Depth: 3 00:00:00 >1...c4-c3 2.b2xc3 Rb3xc3 3.Rd2-a2 Kf6-e6 > -+ (-1.62) Depth: 4 00:00:00 >1...Rb3xb2 > -+ (-1.92) Depth: 4 00:00:00 >1...Rb3xb2 2.Rd2xb2 c4-c3 3.Rb2-b6+ Kf6-g7 4.h2-h4 > -+ (-3.54) Depth: 4 00:00:00 >1...Rb3xb2 2.Rd2xb2 c4-c3 3.Rb2-b6+ Kf6-g7 4.Rb6-b7+ > -+ (-3.18) Depth: 5 00:00:00 >1...Rb3xb2 2.Rd2xb2 c4-c3 3.Rb2-b6+ Kf6-g7 4.Rb6-b7+ Kg7-h6 5.Rb7-b6+ Kh6-h5 >6.Rb6-g6 > -+ (-3.30) Depth: 6 00:00:00 10kN >1...Rb3xb2 2.Rd2xb2 c4-c3 3.Rb2-b6+ Kf6-e7 4.Rb6-b7+ Ke7-d6 5.Rb7xh7 c3-c2 >6.Rh7-h6+ Kd6-c5 7.Rh6-d6 c2-c1Q 8.Rd6xd3 > -+ (-3.47) Depth: 7 00:00:00 30kN >1...Rb3xb2 2.Rd2xb2 c4-c3 3.Rb2-b6+ Kf6-e7 4.Rb6-b7+ Ke7-d6 5.Rb7-a7 c3-c2 >6.Ra7xa4 c2-c1Q 7.Ra4-d4+ Kd6-c5 8.Rd4xd3 > -+ (-3.24) Depth: 8 00:00:00 71kN >1...Rb3xb2 2.Rd2xb2 c4-c3 3.Rb2-b6+ Kf6-e7 4.Rb6-b7+ Ke7-d6 5.Rb7-b6+ Kd6-c5 >6.Rb6-f6 c3-c2 7.Rf6xf5+ Kc5-c4 8.Rf5-f7 h7-h5 > -+ (-3.13) Depth: 9 00:00:00 291kN >1...Rb3xb2 2.Rd2xb2 c4-c3 3.Rb2-b6+ Kf6-e7 4.Rb6-b7+ Ke7-d6 5.Rb7-b6+ Kd6-d7 >6.Rb6-f6 c3-c2 7.Rf6xf5 Kd7-e6 > -+ (-2.92) Depth: 10 00:00:01 551kN > >(Blass, Tel-aviv 23.12.2002) > > > > >Newer Crafty(not the latest version) needs depth 12 > >New position >8/7p/5k2/5p2/p1p2P2/Pr1pPK2/1P1R3P/8 b - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Crafty 18.15: > >1...Rb3-b7 > µ (-1.36) Depth: 1/6 00:00:00 >1...Rb3-b7 2.e3-e4 > µ (-1.17) Depth: 2/6 00:00:00 >1...Rb3-b7 2.e3-e4 Rb7-g7 > -+ (-1.46) Depth: 3/6 00:00:00 >1...Rb3-b7 2.h2-h4 Rb7-e7 3.h4-h5 > -+ (-1.43) Depth: 4/8 00:00:00 >1...c4-c3 2.b2xc3 Rb3xc3 3.Rd2-a2 Rc3-c2 > -+ (-1.73) Depth: 4/8 00:00:00 >1...c4-c3 2.b2xc3 Rb3xc3 3.e3-e4 Rc3xa3 4.e4-e5+ Kf6-e6 > -+ (-1.62) Depth: 5/11 00:00:00 >1...c4-c3 2.b2xc3 Rb3xc3 3.e3-e4 Kf6-e6 4.e4-e5 Rc3xa3 > -+ (-1.62) Depth: 6/14 00:00:00 6kN >1...c4-c3 2.b2xc3 Rb3xc3 3.e3-e4 Kf6-e6 4.e4-e5 Rc3xa3 > -+ (-1.54) Depth: 7/14 00:00:00 12kN >1...c4-c3 2.b2xc3 Rb3xc3 3.e3-e4 Rc3xa3 4.e4-e5+ Kf6-e6 5.Kf3-e3 Ke6-d5 >6.Rd2xd3+ Ra3xd3+ 7.Ke3xd3 a4-a3 > µ (-1.31) Depth: 8/16 00:00:00 22kN >1...Rb3-b8 2.h2-h4 Rb8-e8 3.h4-h5 h7-h6 4.Rd2-d1 Re8-g8 5.Rd1-d2 > -+ (-1.59) Depth: 8/16 00:00:00 63kN >1...Rb3-b8 2.h2-h4 Rb8-e8 3.h4-h5 h7-h6 4.Rd2-d1 Kf6-e6 5.Rd1-d2 Ke6-d5 > -+ (-1.63) Depth: 9/18 00:00:00 117kN >1...Rb3-b8 2.Rd2-g2 h7-h5 3.Rg2-d2 > -+ (-1.71) Depth: 10/19 00:00:02 740kN >1...Rb3-b8 2.h2-h4 Rb8-e8 3.Rd2-d1 h7-h5 4.Rd1-c1 Re8-e4 5.Rc1-g1 Kf6-e6 >6.Rg1-g5 d3-d2 7.Kf3-e2 > -+ (-1.76) Depth: 11/23 00:00:04 1925kN >1...Rb3-b8 2.Rd2-g2 h7-h5 3.h2-h4 Rb8-b7 4.e3-e4 f5xe4+ 5.Kf3xe4 Rb7-e7+ >6.Ke4-d4 Re7-e2 7.Rg2-g1 d3-d2 8.Rg1-d1 Kf6-f5 9.Kd4xc4 Kf5xf4 > -+ (-1.66) Depth: 12/24 00:00:15 7503kN >1...Rb3xb2 2.Rd2xb2 c4-c3 3.Rb2-b6+ Kf6-f7 4.Rb6-b7+ Kf7-g6 5.Rb7-b6+ Kg6-h5 >6.Rb6-f6 c3-c2 7.Rf6xf5+ Kh5-h4 8.Rf5-f7 h7-h5 9.Rf7-d7 c2-c1Q 10.Rd7xd3 > -+ (-2.07) Depth: 12/24 00:00:23 11352kN >1...Rb3xb2 2.Rd2xb2 c4-c3 3.Rb2-b6+ Kf6-f7 4.Rb6-b7+ Kf7-g6 5.Rb7-b6+ Kg6-h5 >6.Rb6-f6 c3-c2 7.Rf6xf5+ Kh5-h4 8.Rf5-f7 h7-h5 9.Rf7-d7 c2-c1Q 10.Rd7xd3 > -+ (-2.47) Depth: 13/28 00:00:29 14374kN > >(Blass, Tel-aviv 23.12.2002) > >Uri
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