Author: Uri Blass
Date: 13:14:04 12/24/02
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On December 24, 2002 at 11:02:35, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>In the event "Menschen vs Maschinen" at Kurt Kispert I succeeded to also win the
>second game:
>Kurt
>
>Homepage Kurt & Rolf: http://www.beepworld.de/members39/utzinger
>
>Event "Mensch vs Maschine 120'/40"]
>[Site "Wetzikon"]
>[Date "2002.12.24"]
>[Round "2"]
>[White "Utzinger, Kurt"]
>[Black "Tasc R30 v2.5"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "D19"]
>[WhiteElo "1980"]
>[BlackElo "2274"]
>[PlyCount "73"]
>
>{Comments/Kommentare: Kurt Utzinger, Switzerland} 1. Nf3 d5 2. d4 Nf6 3. c4 c6
>4. Nc3 dxc4 5. a4 Bf5 6. e3 e6 7. Bxc4 Bb4 8. O-O O-O 9. Qe2 {Here I had for
>the first time to think about the position. Hier musste ich das erste Mal kurz
>ueberlegen.} 9... Nbd7 10. e4 Bg6 {
>Last book move of Tasc R30 v2.5 / Letzter Buchzug von Tasc R30 v2.5} 11. e5 {
>I knew that 11.Bd3 would be best but could not manage to carry out this move
>as I did no longer remember the main line. So, I decided to play another
>continuation. Eigentlich wusste ich, dass hier 11.Ld3 der Theoriezug war. Doch
>hat mir an dieser Position irgend etwas nicht gefallen, weshalb ich mich zum
>sofortigen Zentrumsvorstoss entschloss.} 11... Nd5 {
>[02:06 = total time of game]} 12. Bd2 {[08:20] The intended 12.Bxd5 did no
>longer please me because White remains with the bad bishop after 12...cxd5 13.
>Bd3 Bxd3. Now, I had the idea to play Nc3-e4. Urspruenglich hatte ich
>eigentlich 12.Lxd5 geplant, doch behagte es mir nicht, dass ich nach der
>Antwort 12...cxd5 13.Ld3 Lxd3 mit dem schlechteren Laeufer verblieb. Meine
>Idee war nun, Sc3-e4 zu spielen.} 12... Qa5 {[05:29]} 13. Rfc1 {[10:38]} 13...
>N7b6 {instantaneously played / a tempo gespielt} 14. Bb3 {[14:32] I was not at
>all satisfied with my position because Black has obtained a more than equal
>position. Die vier Minuten Bedenkzeit widerspiegeln meine Unzufriedenheit mit
>meiner Stellung. Weiss hat naemlich gar nichts aus der Eroeffnung geholt.}
>14... h6 {[08:59] A strange move. Ein komischer Zug.} 15. Nxd5 {[15:39]} 15...
>Nxd5 {a tempo} 16. Bxd5 {a tempo} 16... Bxd2 {[12:03]} 17. Rc5 {a tempo} 17...
>Qb6 {[15:09] After 17...Qb4 18.Qxd2 Qxd2 19.Nxd2 exd5 20.b4 White has nothing
>to fear. Nach 17...Db4 18.Dxd2 Dxd2 19.Sxd2 exd5 20.b4 haette Weiss nichts zu
>fuerchten.} 18. Qxd2 {[17:05] The continuation 18.Bxc6 was unclear and I
>therefore hesitated to play it. Auf den Haenden musste ich sitzen, um nicht
>sofort 18.Lxc6 zu spielen. Doch schien mir diese Fortsetzung schliesslich
>"unklar".} 18... exd5 {[21:54] The first time that Tasc R30 v2.5 had more time
>used on the clock. Zum ersten Mal hat Tasc R30 v2.5 mehr Zeit verbraucht.} 19.
>a5 {[26:05] I needed just 9 minutes for this move. But there were some
>interesting alternatives like 19.b4 or 19.Nh4. Some programs suggest her 19.e6
>a move that had not come to my mind. Gute neun Minuten gingen fuer diesen Zug
>drauf. Doch gab es interessante Alternativen wie 19.b4 und insbesondere 19.Sh4
>usw. Einige Programme haetten gar 19.e6 gezogen, ein Bauernvorstoss, den ich
>ueberhaupt nicht erwogen hatte.} 19... Qc7 {[30:36] In my opinion 19...Qa6 was
>somewhat stronger. Nach meiner Meinung war 19...Da6 etwas staerker.} 20. Rac1 {
>[27:20]} 20... Rfc8 {[35:07] A surprise for me. Is is not possible to play 21.
>Rxd5? Again needed I a lot of thinking time. Was ist denn das? Kann man nicht
>21.Txd5 antworten. Uff, wieder geht Bedenkzeit "verloren".} 21. Qc3 {[33:28] Wh
>y should one use much time for calculating the more complicated 21.Rxd5 cxd5
>22.Rxc7 Rxc7? When fighting against computers, one thing is most important:
>not to get in time trouble. Hence, I decided for a harmless continuation that
>prevents Black's b7-b6. Es haette mehr Bedenkzeit gekostet als ich investieren
>wollte, um das komplizierte 21.Txd5 cxd5 22.Txc7 Txc7 zu berechnen. Und eines
>hatte ich schon gelernt: man sollte gegen Computer nie in Zeitnot geraten.
>Deshalb entschloss ich mich zu einer einfacheren Fortsetzung, die b7-b6
>verhindert.} 21... Qd7 {[37:41]} 22. a6 {[38:48] Had I seen all the coming
>complications, I would have preferred the more quiet b2-b4. But I wanted to
>win this game. Ich wollte gewinnen, ansonsten kam Abwarten mit 22.b4 in Frage.}
>22... Rab8 {[37:43] a tempo} (22... bxa6 23. Rxc6 Qxc6 24. Qxc6 Rxc6 25. Rxc6
>Rb8 26. Rxa6 Rxb2 27. h4 Rb1+ 28. Kh2 {=}) 23. axb7 {[41:36] Why did I need
>more than three minutes for this obvious move? It was because I just noticed
>that the answer 23...Qxb7 could be stronger than the expected 23...Rxb7.
>Weshalb ich dafuer nochmals drei Minuten investierte? Es gab ja kaum etwas
>Anderes. Das
>kam daher, weil ich ploetzlich die Antwort 23...Dxb7 als besser als die geplante
>Fortsetzung 23...Txb7 beurteilte.} 23... Qxb7 {[41:55] I began to feel
>uncomfortable and had to say
>to me: just concentrate, otherwise you will lose this game. Ich begann, mich
>unbehaglich zu fuehlen. Nun war aeusserste Konzentration angesagt, sonst - so
>sagte ich mir - geht die Partie noch in die Hosen.} 24. e6 {[45:40] In my
>opinion there was indeed no other choice for White to avoid disadvantage. The
>idea is to get the strong e5-square for my knight. Ich sah keine andere
>Moeglichkeit, um Nachteil zu vermeiden. Die Idee ist, dem weissen Ross das
>starke Feld e5 einzuraeumen. Mit der Antwort f7-f6 von Tasc R30 v2.5 hatte ich
>nur vage gerrechnet.} 24... f6 {a tempo The drawback of this move is that
>White has a strong passed pawn in Black's camp. Der Nachteil dieses Zuges
>liegt darin, dass Weiss einen vorgespreschten und in vielen Varianten
>aeusserst laestigen Bauern im schwarzen Lager etablieren konnte.} 25. Nh4 {
>[46:09]} 25... Be4 {[41:57]} 26. f3 {[52:00] Opens a hole for white's King.
>Again needed I 6 min of thinking time. But this was an important situation in
>the game. Ein Loch fuer den Koenig, und wiederum knapp sechs Minuten. Es war
>jedoch eine wichtige Stellung} 26... Bh7 {a tempo} 27. g4 {a tempo; This
>strong move came to my mind rather early. At first I wanted to play 27.f4 but
>suddenly I discovered that 27.g4 gives White clear advantage. Ein wichtiger
>Zug, den ich erst relativ spaet bemerkte, hatte ich doch urspruenglich 27.f4
>geplant. Und je laenger ich auf die Stellung starrte, desto klarer wurde mir,
>dass Weiss nun klaren Vorteil hat. Das hatte ich bei 24.e6 noch nicht gespuert.
>Manchmal bringen Notloesungen eben ganze Punkte.} 27... Re8 {[46:41] Most
>probably, 27...Qxb2 is nothing better. Wahrscheinlich ist auch 27...Dxb2 nicht
>besser.} 28. Rxc6 Qxb2 29. Qxb2 Rxb2 30. Nf5 {And now, White has a very
>comfortable position. Nun steht Weiss fast unverhofft guenstig.} 30... Bxf5 31.
>gxf5 a5 32. Rc7 Rd2 {
>The only chance was 32...g6. Die einzige Chance auf Remis bestand in 32...g6}
>33. Rd7 {And now I was sure that I would win this game. Nun war ich mir des
>Partiegewinns sicher.} 33... Rb8 {[01:25:07] Tasc R30 v2.5 obviously just
>noticed how bad his position was. And for this move, the program neeeded 24
>minutes of thinking time.
33...Kh7 is the best move and 33...Kh8 is the second best move based on deep
fritz.
33...Rb8 is only 3th best move.
Can you post the winning line for white after 33...Kh7?
New game - Junior 7
[D]4r1k1/3R2p1/4Pp1p/p2p1P2/3P4/5P2/3r3P/2R3K1 b - - 0 1
Analysis by Deep Fritz:
33...Rxe6--
+- (1.87) Depth: 1/4 00:00:00
33...Rxe6-- 34.fxe6
+- (3.41) Depth: 1/6 00:00:00
33...Rxd4!
+- (1.84) Depth: 1/6 00:00:00
33...Rxd4!
³ (-0.50) Depth: 1/6 00:00:00
33...Rxd4--
= (-0.19) Depth: 2/7 00:00:00
33...Rxd4--
= (-0.19) Depth: 2/7 00:00:00
33...Rxd4 34.Rcc7 g5
³ (-0.34) Depth: 3/11 00:00:00
33...Rxd4 34.Rcc7 Rd1+ 35.Kf2 g5
= (-0.22) Depth: 4/12 00:00:00 1kN
33...Rxd4 34.Rc5 a4 35.Rdxd5 Rxd5 36.Rxd5
= (-0.03) Depth: 5/13 00:00:00 3kN
33...Rxd4 34.Rcc7 Rd1+ 35.Kf2 Rd2+ 36.Kg3 g5 37.Rg7+ Kh8 38.Rh7+ Kg8
= (0.00) Depth: 6/15 00:00:00 9kN
33...Rxd4--
² (0.47) Depth: 7/18 00:00:00 16kN
33...Rxd4-- 34.Rcc7 Kh8 35.Rxg7 Rg8 36.Rxg8+ Kxg8 37.Kf2 Rd2+ 38.Kg3
² (0.50) Depth: 7/18 00:00:00 25kN
33...Rxd4 34.Rcc7 Kh8 35.Rxg7 Rg8 36.Rxg8+ Kxg8 37.Kf2 a4
² (0.34) Depth: 8/17 00:00:00 46kN
33...Rxd4 34.Rcc7 Kh8 35.Kf2 a4 36.Ra7 Rc4 37.Rxg7 Rc2+ 38.Kg3
² (0.44) Depth: 9/20 00:00:00 145kN
33...Rxd4 34.Rcc7 Kh8 35.Kf2 Rd2+ 36.Kg3 a4 37.Ra7 Rd4 38.Rxg7 Ra8
² (0.59) Depth: 10/22 00:00:00 324kN
33...Rxd4--
± (0.91) Depth: 11/23 00:00:01 591kN
33...Rxd4-- 34.Rcc7 Rd1+ 35.Kf2 Rd2+ 36.Kg3 Kh8 37.Rxg7 Re2
+- (2.16) Depth: 11/23 00:00:01 769kN
33...Re2!
+- (2.12) Depth: 11/26 00:00:02 1362kN
33...Re2! 34.Rcc7 Kh8 35.Rxg7 Rg8 36.Rxg8+ Kxg8 37.Rc5 a4 38.Ra5
+- (1.84) Depth: 11/26 00:00:03 2232kN
33...Kh8!
+- (1.81) Depth: 11/26 00:00:05 3729kN
33...Kh7!
+- (1.78) Depth: 11/26 00:00:07 4523kN
33...Kh7! 34.Rxd5 a4 35.Ra5 Rxd4 36.Ra1 g6 37.Ra7+ Kg8 38.fxg6 Rxe6 39.R7xa4
± (1.19) Depth: 11/26 00:00:07 5133kN
33...Kh7--
+- (1.50) Depth: 12/25 00:00:08 5522kN
33...Kh7-- 34.Rxd5 a4 35.Ra1 Rb8 36.Ra5 Rxd4 37.R5xa4 Rd5 38.Re1 Re8
+- (1.53) Depth: 12/25 00:00:08 5745kN
33...Kh7!
± (1.22) Depth: 13/26 00:00:11 7722kN
33...Kh7! 34.Rxd5 a4 35.Ra1 Rb8 36.e7 Re8 37.Rd7 Re2 38.d5 R8xe7
± (1.09) Depth: 13/27 00:00:13 9230kN
33...Kh7 34.Rxd5 a4 35.Rd7 Rb8 36.e7 Re8 37.d5 a3 38.d6 a2 39.Rd8
± (1.22) Depth: 14/29 00:00:27 18403kN
33...Kh7!
± (0.91) Depth: 15/30 00:00:52 36685kN
33...Rxe6--
± (1.22) Depth: 1/2 00:01:00
33...Rxe6-- 34.fxe6
+- (3.41) Depth: 1/7 00:01:00
33...Rxd4!
+- (1.97) Depth: 1/7 00:01:00
33...Rxd4! 34.Rcc7
= (-0.19) Depth: 1/7 00:01:00
33...Rxd4--
± (1.22) Depth: 2/3 00:01:00
33...Rxd4--
± (1.22) Depth: 2/3 00:01:00
33...Kh8!
± (1.06) Depth: 2/4 00:01:00
33...Kh8--
± (1.37) Depth: 3/7 00:01:00
33...Kh8--
± (1.37) Depth: 3/7 00:01:00
33...Rxd4!
± (1.19) Depth: 3/7 00:01:00
33...Rxd4! 34.Rcc7 Kh8 35.Rxg7
± (0.84) Depth: 3/8 00:01:00
33...Rxd4 34.Rcc7 Kh8 35.Rxg7
± (0.91) Depth: 4/7 00:01:00
33...Rxd4--
± (1.22) Depth: 5/9 00:01:00
33...Rxd4--
± (1.22) Depth: 5/9 00:01:00
33...Rxd4 34.Rcc7 Kh8 35.Rxg7 Rg8 36.Rxg8+ Kxg8
± (1.22) Depth: 6/10 00:01:00 1kN
33...Rxd4 34.Rcc7 Kh8 35.Rxg7 Rg8 36.Rxg8+ Kxg8 37.Rc8+ Kg7
± (1.22) Depth: 7/12 00:01:00 3kN
33...Rxd4!
± (0.91) Depth: 8/16 00:01:00 8kN
33...Rxd4! 34.Rcc7 Kh8 35.Kf2 Rg8 36.Ra7 a4 37.Ke3 Rc4
± (0.84) Depth: 8/16 00:01:00 13kN
33...Rxd4--
± (1.22) Depth: 9/17 00:01:00 15kN
33...Rxd4-- 34.Rcc7 Kh8 35.Rxg7 Rg8 36.Rxg8+ Kxg8 37.Rc8+ Kg7
± (1.25) Depth: 9/19 00:01:00 42kN
33...Rxd4 34.Rcc7 Kh8 35.Rxg7 Rg8 36.Rxg8+ Kxg8 37.Rc8+ Kg7
± (1.25) Depth: 10/21 00:01:00 117kN
33...Rxd4--
+- (1.56) Depth: 11/23 00:01:00 234kN
33...Rxd4-- 34.Rcc7 Rd1+ 35.Kf2 Rd2+ 36.Kg3 Kh8 37.Rxg7 Re2
+- (2.16) Depth: 11/23 00:01:00 296kN
33...Kh8!
+- (2.12) Depth: 11/23 00:01:01 307kN
33...Kh8! 34.Rxd5 a4 35.Ra1 g6 36.Rxa4 gxf5 37.Rd7 Rg8+ 38.Kf1 Rb8 39.Ke1
+- (1.75) Depth: 11/23 00:01:01 552kN
33...Kh8 34.Rxd5 Kh7 35.Rxa5 Rb8 36.e7 Re8 37.Rc7 Rxd4 38.Kg2 Rd2+ 39.Kg3
+- (1.72) Depth: 12/24 00:01:03 1733kN
33...Kh8 34.Rxd5 Kh7 35.Rd7 Rb8 36.e7 Re8 37.d5 Kg8 38.d6 Kf7 39.Ra1
+- (1.72) Depth: 13/26 00:01:06 4027kN
33...Kh8 34.Rxd5 a4 35.Rd7 Re2 36.d5 a3 37.d6 a2 38.Rdc7 Rd8 39.Rc8
+- (1.81) Depth: 14/27 00:01:16 11031kN
33...Kh8 34.Rxd5 a4 35.Rd7 Kh7 36.Ra1 a3 37.Rxa3 Rb8 38.Ra1
+- (1.62) Depth: 15/31 00:01:48 33054kN
33...Kh8 34.Rxd5 a4 35.Rd7 Kh7 36.Ra1 a3 37.Rxa3 Rb8 38.Ra1 Rbb2 39.d5
+- (1.62) Depth: 16/35 00:02:41 69936kN
33...Rxe6--
+- (1.62) Depth: 1/2 00:02:58
33...Rxe6-- 34.fxe6
+- (3.41) Depth: 1/7 00:02:58
33...Rxd4!
+- (1.97) Depth: 1/7 00:02:58
33...Rxd4! 34.Rcc7
= (-0.19) Depth: 1/7 00:02:58
33...Rxd4--
+- (1.62) Depth: 2/3 00:02:58
33...Rxd4--
+- (1.62) Depth: 2/3 00:02:58
33...g6!
+- (1.59) Depth: 2/4 00:02:58
33...g6--
+- (2.12) Depth: 3/3 00:02:58
33...g6--
+- (2.12) Depth: 3/9 00:02:58
33...Rxd4!
+- (2.09) Depth: 3/9 00:02:58
33...Rxd4! 34.Rcc7
= (0.09) Depth: 3/9 00:02:58
33...Rxd4--
+- (1.62) Depth: 4/5 00:02:58
33...Rxd4--
+- (1.62) Depth: 4/7 00:02:58
33...g6!
+- (1.59) Depth: 4/8 00:02:58
33...g6 34.fxg6 a4
+- (1.62) Depth: 5/12 00:02:58 1kN
33...g6 34.fxg6 a4 35.Rcc7 Rd1+
+- (1.62) Depth: 6/17 00:02:58 2kN
33...g6 34.Rcc7 Re2 35.Kf1 Re3 36.Kf2 Rb3 37.fxg6
+- (1.75) Depth: 7/19 00:02:58 9kN
33...Rxd4!
+- (1.72) Depth: 7/19 00:02:58 11kN
33...Rxd4! 34.Rcc7 Kh8 35.Rxg7 Rd1+ 36.Kf2 Rc1 37.Rb7
± (1.09) Depth: 7/19 00:02:58 14kN
33...Rxd4--
+- (1.41) Depth: 8/12 00:02:58 15kN
33...Rxd4-- 34.Rcc7 Kh8 35.Rxg7 Rd1+ 36.Kf2 Rb8
+- (1.78) Depth: 8/15 00:02:58 21kN
33...h5!
+- (1.75) Depth: 8/18 00:02:58 30kN
33...h5! 34.Rcc7 Kh8 35.Rxg7 Rg8 36.Rxg8+ Kxg8 37.Rc8+ Kh7
+- (1.62) Depth: 8/18 00:02:58 31kN
33...h5--
+- (1.94) Depth: 9/17 00:02:58 37kN
33...h5-- 34.Rcc7 Kh8 35.Rxg7 Rg8
+- (2.12) Depth: 9/19 00:02:58 48kN
33...Rxd4!
+- (2.09) Depth: 9/19 00:02:58 64kN
33...Rxd4! 34.Rcc7 Kh8 35.Rxg7 Rg8 36.Rxg8+ Kxg8 37.Rc8+ Kh7 38.e7 Rd1+ 39.Kf2
+- (1.62) Depth: 9/19 00:02:58 74kN
33...Rxd4 34.Rcc7 Kh8 35.Rxg7 Rg8 36.Rxg8+ Kxg8 37.Rc8+ Kh7 38.e7 Rd1+ 39.Kg2
+- (1.72) Depth: 10/22 00:02:58 117kN
33...Rxd4--
+- (2.03) Depth: 11/21 00:02:59 304kN
33...Rxd4-- 34.Rcc7 Rd1+ 35.Kg2 Rd2+ 36.Kg3 Kh8 37.Rxg7 Re2
+- (2.16) Depth: 11/23 00:02:59 382kN
33...Kf8!
+- (2.12) Depth: 11/26 00:02:59 882kN
33...Kf8! 34.Rf7+ Kg8 35.Rcc7 Rd1+ 36.Kf2 Rd2+ 37.Kf1 Rd1+ 38.Ke2 Rg1 39.Kf2
+- (2.09) Depth: 11/26 00:02:59 910kN
33...Kf8--
+- (2.41) Depth: 12/26 00:03:00 967kN
33...Kf8-- 34.Rf7+ Kg8 35.Rcc7 Rd1+ 36.Kf2 Rd2+ 37.Kg3 Kh8 38.Rxg7 Rd1
+- (3.56) Depth: 12/26 00:03:00 1068kN
33...Rxd4!
+- (3.53) Depth: 12/26 00:03:00 1112kN
33...Rxd4! 34.Rcc7 Rd1+ 35.Kf2 Rd2+ 36.Kg3 Kh8 37.Rxg7 Rg8 38.Rxg8+ Kxg8 39.Rc8+
+- (2.84) Depth: 12/26 00:03:00 1274kN
33...Re2!
+- (2.81) Depth: 12/26 00:03:00 1568kN
33...Re2! 34.Rcc7 Kh8 35.Kf1 Rb2 36.Rxg7 Rb1+ 37.Kf2 Rb2+ 38.Ke3 Rb3+ 39.Kf4
+- (2.59) Depth: 12/27 00:03:01 1672kN
33...Re2--
+- (2.91) Depth: 13/27 00:03:02 2733kN
33...Re2-- 34.Rcc7 Kh8 35.Kf1 Re3 36.Rxg7 Rxf3+ 37.Ke2 Rxf5
+- (3.16) Depth: 13/27 00:03:03 3324kN
33...Rxd4!
+- (3.12) Depth: 13/28 00:03:04 3973kN
33...Rxd4! 34.Rcc7 Rd1+ 35.Kf2 Rd2+ 36.Kg3 Kh8 37.Rxg7 Rg8 38.Rxg8+ Kxg8 39.Rc8+
+- (2.84) Depth: 13/29 00:03:04 4186kN
33...Rb8!
+- (2.81) Depth: 13/29 00:03:05 4696kN
33...Rb8! 34.e7 Kf7 35.Rd8 Kxe7 36.Rxb8 Rxd4 37.Ra1 Rf4 38.Rxa5 Rxf5 39.Ra7+
+- (2.78) Depth: 13/29 00:03:05 4895kN
33...Rb8 34.e7 Kf7 35.Rd8 Kxe7 36.Rxb8 Rxd4 37.Ra1 a4 38.Ra8 Kd6 39.R8xa4
+- (2.84) Depth: 14/28 00:03:07 6396kN
33...Rb8 34.e7 Kf7 35.Rd8 Kxe7 36.Rxb8 Rxd4 37.Rc6 Rb4 38.Rxb4 axb4 39.Rb6
+- (3.03) Depth: 15/29 00:03:14 11265kN
33...Rb8 34.e7 Kf7 35.Rd8 Kxe7 36.Rxb8 Rxd4 37.Rc6 Rd1+ 38.Kf2 Rd2+ 39.Kg3
+- (3.25) Depth: 16/31 00:03:30 22419kN
33...Rxd4!
+- (3.22) Depth: 16/32 00:03:34 24948kN
33...Rxd4--
+- (3.53) Depth: 17/34 00:04:06 46652kN
33...Rxd4-- 34.Rcc7 Rd1+ 35.Kf2 Rd2+ 36.Kg3 Kh8 37.Rxg7 Re2
+- (3.59) Depth: 17/37 00:04:28 63049kN
33...Rb8!
+- (3.56) Depth: 17/37 00:04:35 68694kN
33...Rb8! 34.e7 Re8 35.Rd8 Kf7 36.Rcc8 Rxd4 37.Rxe8 Rd2 38.Ra8 d4 39.Rg8
+- (3.31) Depth: 17/37 00:04:52 80867kN
(blass, tel-aviv 24.12.2002)
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