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Subject: Re: With new diagram - black to move! (sorry)

Author: Dieter Buerssner

Date: 06:46:03 12/25/02

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On December 24, 2002 at 22:15:21, Eduard Nemeth wrote:

>>Now: when white do no play Rc2?,  but 69. Re2?! (see diagram), how do win
>>black now? What says the programs?

> 8/8/8/4bk2/7p/5P2/4R1K1/3r4 b - - 0 1

With some patience, Yace will announce a mate (P4, 2.53 GHz):

  36185793  48.888   6.03 16t  1...Bf4 2. Re8 Rd2+ 3. Kh1 Bg3 4. Rf8+ Ke5 5.
                               Rg8 Kf4 6. Rf8+ Ke5H 7. Rg8H Kf4H 8. Rf8+H
                               Ke5HR {350}
  43703518  1:01.7   6.03 16.  1...Bf4 2. Re8 Rd2+ 3. Kh1 Bg3 4. Rf8+ Ke5 5.
                               Rg8 Kf4 6. Rf8+ Ke5 7. Rg8 Kf4 8. Rf8+ Ke5 {350}
  68558223  1:35.1   6.04 17t  1...Bf4 2. Re8 Rd2+ 3. Kh1 Bg3 4. Rf8+ Kg5 5.
                               Rc8 h3 6. Rc1H Kf4H 7. Kg1H Bf2+H 8. Kh2H Bg3+H
                               9. Kg1H Bf2+H 10. Kh2H Bg3+H 11. Kg1HR {350}
  81205244  2:00.0   6.04 17.  1...Bf4 2. Re8 Rd2+ 3. Kh1 Bg3 4. Rf8+ Kg5 5.
                               Rc8 h3 6. Rc1 Kf4 7. Kg1 Bf2+ 8. Kh2 Bg3+ 9.
                               Kg1 Bf2+ 10. Kh2 Bg3+ 11. Kg1 {350}
 171139403  4:01.5   6.04 18t  1...Bf4 2. Re8 Rd2+ 3. Kh1 Bg3 4. Rf8+ Kg5 5.
                               Rc8 h3 6. Rc1 Kf4 7. Rb1 Rh2+ 8. Kg1 Re2 9.
                               Rb4+ Kxf3 10. Rb3+ Kg4 11. Rb1 Bf4 12. Rf1 Rc2
                               13. Kh1 Kg3 14. Rg1+ Rg2H 15. Rd1H Rh2+H 16.
                               Kg1H Be3+H 17. Kf1H {HT} {430}
 218709199  5:06.4   6.05 18t+ 1...Rc1 2. Rf2
 245958807  5:53.7   6.44 18++ 1...Rc1 2. Rf2 Re1 3. f4 Bxf4 4. Rf3 Re2+ 5.
                               Kf1 Rc2 6. Ke1 Rc1+ 7. Ke2 Kg4 8. Rb3 h3 9. Rb6
                               h2 10. Rg6+ Kf5 11. Kd3 h1=Q 12. Rh6 {1351}
 282117804  6:44.7   6.44 18t  1...Rc1 2. Rf2 Re1 3. f4H Bxf4H 4. Rf3H Re2+H
                               5. Kf1H Rc2H {HT}
 294207887  7:11.1   6.44 18.  1...Rc1 2. Rf2 Re1 3. f4 Bxf4 4. Rf3 Re2+ 5.
                               Kf1 Rc2
 303420991  7:33.0   6.84 19++ 1...Rc1 2. Rf2 Re1 3. f4 Bxf4 4. Rf3 Re2+ 5.
                               Kf1 Rc2 6. Kg1 Kg4 7. Rf1 Kg3 8. Re1 Bd2 9. Ra1
                               Be3+ 10. Kf1 h3 11. Ra3 Rf2+ 12. Ke1 h2 13.
                               Rxe3+ Rf3 14. Re4 h1=Q+ 15. Kd2 {1001}
 306045371  7:43.0   7.84 19++ 1...Rc1 2. Rf2 Re1 3. f4 Bxf4 4. Rf3 Re2+ 5.
                               Kf1 Rc2 6. Kg1 Kg4 7. Rf1 Kg3 8. Rd1 Be3+ 9. Kf1
 308895798  8:00.2  12.84 19++ 1...Rc1 2. Rf2 Re1 3. f4 Bxf4 4. Rf3 Re2+ 5.
                               Kf1 Rc2 6. Kg1 Kg4 7. Rf1 Kg3 8. Re1 Bd2 9. Rb1
                               Be3+ 10. Kf1 h3 11. Ke1 h2 12. Kd1 Rc1+ 13. Ke2
                               h1=Q 14. Kd3 {1351}
3369290098 1:00:14  Mat21 19t  1...Rc1 2. Rf2 Re1 3. f4 Bxf4 4. Rf3 Re2+ 5.
                               Kf1 Rc2 6. Rf2 Rc1+ 7. Ke2 h3 8. Kd3 h2 9. Ra2
                               h1=Q 10. Ra5+ Rc5 11. Rxc5+ {EGTB} 11...Be5 12.
                               Kc4! Qe4+ 13. Kb5 Qb7+ 14. Ka5 Ke4! 15. Rb5!
                               Bc3+! 16. Ka4! Qd7 17. Kb3! Qxb5+! 18. Kxc3!
                               Ke3! 19. Kc2 Qb4! 20. Kc1! Kd3! 21. Kd1 Qb1#
                               {1001}
3569580118 1:05:50  Mat21 19.  1...Rc1 2. Rf2 Re1 3. f4 Bxf4 4. Rf3 Re2+ 5.
                               Kf1 Rc2 6. Rf2 Rc1+ 7. Ke2 h3 8. Kd3 h2 9. Ra2
                               h1=Q 10. Ra5+ Rc5 11. Rxc5+ {EGTB} 11...Be5 12.
                               Kc4! Qe4+ 13. Kb5 Qb7+ 14. Ka5 Ke4! 15. Rb5!
                               Bc3+! 16. Ka4! Qd7 17. Kb3! Qxb5+! 18. Kxc3!
                               Ke3! 19. Kc2 Qb4! 20. Kc1! Kd3! 21. Kd1 Qb1#
                               {1001}

If I follow the HV, the mate gets shorter (first 18, then mate in 17 - counted
from the root postion).

Rb1 and Ra1 lead to the same HV.

Other moves win, too. I checked Bc7 and Bf4, and found mate score.
For example after Bf4 (this one done with prefilled hash tables):

  69423357  1:10.6 -Mat22 15.  2. Re7 Rd2+ 3. Kh1 h3 4. Rf7+ Ke5 5. Rg7 Rd5 6.
                               Rg8 h2 7. Re8+ Kf6 8. Rf8+ Kg5 9. Rh8 Rd1+ 10.
                               Kg2 Rg1+ 11. Kf2 h1=Q 12. Rxh1 Rxh1 13. Ke2 Bg3
                               {EGTB} 14. Kd2 Kf4! 15. Kd3 Rh5 16. Kc4 Be1 17.
                               Kd4! Rg5 18. Kc4 Ke3! 19. f4 Rf5! 20. Kb3 Kd3!
                               21. Kb2! Rb5+! 22. Ka2 Kc2! 23. f5 Ra5#! {-770}

The mate scores have to be interpreted as lower bound - there can be faster
mates.

Regards,
Dieter




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