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Subject: Re: Move Ordering

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 12:18:29 12/25/02

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On December 25, 2002 at 10:46:17, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>On December 24, 2002 at 23:05:09, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>[...] Why don't you go read Knuth/Moore's paper on
>>alpha beta.  There you will find that move ordering does _not_ affect the
>>final score, only the size of the tree.  Something every senion-level computer
>>science student should know.
>
>I think, in most modern chess programs, move ordering can affect the final
>score. Reasons can be extensions/pruning/hash tables.
>
>Regards,
>Dieter

If move ordering affects extensions or pruning, _something_ is broken.  As
that violates the basic premise of alpha/beta...

Hashing _can_ cause quirks, but it actually is more important to search _worse_
moves first and then graft those search results on to better searches.  That is
how we solve fine 70 faster than we should.  If the tree were ordered
perfectly it takes 26 plies, period...




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