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Subject: Re: What are the Differences between Deep Blue and DJ match vs Kasparov ?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 19:36:11 12/26/02

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On December 26, 2002 at 22:33:18, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 26, 2002 at 22:23:28, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On December 26, 2002 at 21:48:49, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On December 26, 2002 at 20:32:22, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 26, 2002 at 19:34:09, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 26, 2002 at 19:24:35, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On December 26, 2002 at 19:06:56, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On December 26, 2002 at 18:51:50, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Kasparov was not allowed to study his electronic opponent's playing style prior
>>>>>>>>to the match. By contrast, Kasparov will be given a copy of Deep Junior  before
>>>>>>>>the start of the contest. This allowed Kasparov to prepare in a similar way as
>>>>>>>>he would for a match with a grandmaster - by analysing his previous games. Deep
>>>>>>>>Blue was also reprogrammed following each game, but will Deep Junior be allowed
>>>>>>>>too ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Pichard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Where did you read that kasparov will be given a copy of the opponent?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I believe that kasparov is going to get only relatively old version of Junior.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think that the only way to let kasparov to prepare in a similiar way as he
>>>>>>>would for a match with a grandmaster is simply not to give him old version of
>>>>>>>the program(it mean no commercial or freeware against kasparov) but to let the
>>>>>>>new version of the program to play public games against GM's.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Uri, why would Kasparov get an old version?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'd say he's using Junior 8 Beta, and a few weeks after the match, Junior 8 will
>>>>>>be available from ChessBase.  I'll guess sometime around March;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Terry
>>>>>
>>>>>Why would Amir Ban give kasparov Junior8 beta?
>>>>>He has no reason to do it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I guess that kasaprov's version is something that is more close to Junior7 than
>>>>>Junior8.
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>>
>>>>Uri, why do you say this stuff? Why would Kramnik get to use Fritz 8 Beta, and
>>>>Kasparov only gets to use Junior 7 or the equivalent?
>>>>
>>>>It wouldn't be too fair either; Would it?
>>>>
>>>>Terry
>>>
>>>Kramnik-Fritz was unfair from the start.
>>>kramnik also did not care about losing a piece based on his words and he even
>>>did not admit that he blundered when he resigned.
>>>
>>>It simply seems to be a behaviour of a player that does not
>>>care about the result in the best case.
>>>
>>>I do not care about kramnik(the fact that kramnik played unfair match does not
>>>mean that kasparov is going to do the same)
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>ROTFL! Uri, c'mon, first you accuse Kramnik, for not giving a damn, not playing
>>fair, then you say Kasparov wouldn't use the programme for his own benefit!
>>
>>Uri, Kasparov will want and use every possible advantage he can get, and will!
>>
>>Remember May 11, 1997? I don't think he wants to take risks, and certainly he
>>doesn't want to repeat his infamous loss!
>>
>>N'uff said!
>>
>>Terry
>
>Kasparov did not ask to get the program in advance like kramnik.
>I belueve that
>Kasparov plans to win but only in a fair way.
>
>Uri

It means that he is going to train against the Junior that he has but not ask
for the Junior that is going to play against him because in this case it is
clear that kasparov will win unless he decides to lose on purpose.

Uri

Uri



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