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Subject: Re: What are the Differences between Deep Blue and DJ match vs Kasparov ?

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 20:01:28 12/26/02

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On December 26, 2002 at 22:36:11, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 26, 2002 at 22:33:18, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On December 26, 2002 at 22:23:28, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>
>>>On December 26, 2002 at 21:48:49, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 26, 2002 at 20:32:22, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 26, 2002 at 19:34:09, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On December 26, 2002 at 19:24:35, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On December 26, 2002 at 19:06:56, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On December 26, 2002 at 18:51:50, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Kasparov was not allowed to study his electronic opponent's playing style prior
>>>>>>>>>to the match. By contrast, Kasparov will be given a copy of Deep Junior  before
>>>>>>>>>the start of the contest. This allowed Kasparov to prepare in a similar way as
>>>>>>>>>he would for a match with a grandmaster - by analysing his previous games. Deep
>>>>>>>>>Blue was also reprogrammed following each game, but will Deep Junior be allowed
>>>>>>>>>too ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Pichard.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Where did you read that kasparov will be given a copy of the opponent?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I believe that kasparov is going to get only relatively old version of Junior.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I think that the only way to let kasparov to prepare in a similiar way as he
>>>>>>>>would for a match with a grandmaster is simply not to give him old version of
>>>>>>>>the program(it mean no commercial or freeware against kasparov) but to let the
>>>>>>>>new version of the program to play public games against GM's.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Uri, why would Kasparov get an old version?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'd say he's using Junior 8 Beta, and a few weeks after the match, Junior 8 will
>>>>>>>be available from ChessBase.  I'll guess sometime around March;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Terry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why would Amir Ban give kasparov Junior8 beta?
>>>>>>He has no reason to do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I guess that kasaprov's version is something that is more close to Junior7 than
>>>>>>Junior8.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri, why do you say this stuff? Why would Kramnik get to use Fritz 8 Beta, and
>>>>>Kasparov only gets to use Junior 7 or the equivalent?
>>>>>
>>>>>It wouldn't be too fair either; Would it?
>>>>>
>>>>>Terry
>>>>
>>>>Kramnik-Fritz was unfair from the start.
>>>>kramnik also did not care about losing a piece based on his words and he even
>>>>did not admit that he blundered when he resigned.
>>>>
>>>>It simply seems to be a behaviour of a player that does not
>>>>care about the result in the best case.
>>>>
>>>>I do not care about kramnik(the fact that kramnik played unfair match does not
>>>>mean that kasparov is going to do the same)
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>ROTFL! Uri, c'mon, first you accuse Kramnik, for not giving a damn, not playing
>>>fair, then you say Kasparov wouldn't use the programme for his own benefit!
>>>
>>>Uri, Kasparov will want and use every possible advantage he can get, and will!
>>>
>>>Remember May 11, 1997? I don't think he wants to take risks, and certainly he
>>>doesn't want to repeat his infamous loss!
>>>
>>>N'uff said!
>>>
>>>Terry
>>
>>Kasparov did not ask to get the program in advance like kramnik.
>>I belueve that
>>Kasparov plans to win but only in a fair way.
>>
>>Uri
>
>It means that he is going to train against the Junior that he has but not ask
>for the Junior that is going to play against him because in this case it is
>clear that kasparov will win unless he decides to lose on purpose.
>
>Uri
>
>Uri

I've a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you! >:)

Terry



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