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Subject: Re: Testposition am Qxf1, oups

Author: Gerd Isenberg

Date: 11:34:52 12/27/02

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On December 26, 2002 at 09:17:49, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 26, 2002 at 08:06:57, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>
>>oups, wrong epd-syntax, from an old epd-like textfile ;-)
>>
>>[D] 1kr5/pp2bNp1/1qb1p3/3n4/P2PN3/1p1B2P1/1B2Q3/R4rK1 w - - ;am Qxf1
>
>Movei needs less than a minute to fail high on Rxf1 but the score for Qxf1
>before the fail high alos showed advantage for white.
>
>It had a big fail low on Qxf1 but even after the fail low the score was about
>one pawn advantage for white.
>
>After I give it Qxf1 it has a fail high on Rf8 at depth 9 but the score is also
>good for white inspite of the fail high and the score at depthes 10 and 11 does
>not continue to improve for black so I am not sure that movei will not change
>it's mind to Qxf1 if I give it a longer search.

Yes, there are three main eval issues here that influence the result.

1. A piece pinned to the queen (after Qxf1 Rf8)
2. Connected passers!? (after Rxf1 Bxa4)
3. King safety (halfopen a-file after Rxf1 Bxa4)

The old Dos-IsiChess played Qxf1 and lost against Comet (few years ago). But of
course that's no proof that Qxf1 is really a looser here. But i think Rxf1 is
better.

Gerd

>
>Here is the analysis by movei(64 mbytes hash 1000 mhz)
>
>new
>setboard 1kr5/pp2bNp1/1qb1p3/3n4/P2PN3/1p1B2P1/1B2Q3/R4rK1 w - -
>analyze
>1 170 0 112 e2f1 b6a5
>2 170 0 165 e2f1 b6a5
>2 170 0 173 e2f1 b6a5
>3 161 1 665 e2f1 b6a5 e4d6
>3 161 1 723 e2f1 b6a5 e4d6
>4 183 2 2480 e2f1 b6a5 f7d6 e7d6 e4d6
>4 183 2 2698 e2f1 b6a5 f7d6 e7d6 e4d6
>5 175 6 8887 e2f1 b6a5 f1h3 c6a4 h3e6
>5 175 7 9872 e2f1 b6a5 f1h3 c6a4 h3e6
>6 176 30 43933 e2f1 b6a5 f7e5 c8f8 f1h3 d5c7
>6 176 32 45829 e2f1 b6a5 f7e5 c8f8 f1h3 d5c7
>7 161 120 177555 e2f1 c8f8 d3c4 b6c7 c4b3 d5e3 f1e2 c6e4 e2e3 f8f7 e3e4 c7g3
>7 161 134 198026 e2f1 c8f8 d3c4 b6c7 c4b3 d5e3 f1e2 c6e4 e2e3 f8f7 e3e4 c7g3
>8 158 364 552608 e2f1 d5b4 a4a5 b6c7 f7e5 c8f8 f1b1 b4d3 b1d3
>8 158 457 698869 e2f1 d5b4 a4a5 b6c7 f7e5 c8f8 f1b1 b4d3 b1d3
>9 173 1237 1927263 e2f1 d5b4 f7e5 c8f8 f1e2 b4d3 e2d3 b6b4 a4a5 c6e4 d3e4
>9 173 1300 2022321 e2f1 d5b4 f7e5 c8f8 f1e2 b4d3 e2d3 b6b4 a4a5 c6e4 d3e4
>10 103 4768 7315642 e2f1 c8f8 d3b5 c6b5 a4b5 d5c7 a1c1 b6b5 f1f4 b5a5 b2c3
>10 104 5211 8008411 a1f1
>10 117 8910 13507500 a1f1 c6a4 f7e5 b6b4 d3c4 e7f6 e4c5 d5c3 e2e3 c3d5
>10 117 9299 14102078 a1f1 c6a4 f7e5 b6b4 d3c4 e7f6 e4c5 d5c3 e2e3 c3d5
>11 119 14308 21331811 a1f1 c6a4 f7e5 a7a6 d3c4 d5f6 g3g4 a4e8 e2h2 b8a8 e4d2
>11 119 15598 23235671 a1f1 c6a4 f7e5 a7a6 d3c4 d5f6 g3g4 a4e8 e2h2 b8a8 e4d2
>e2f1
>1 -170 0 63 b6a5
>2 -171 1 166 b6a5 f7d6
>2 -170 1 727 c6d7
>2 -168 1 784 c6d7 f7e5
>2 -168 1 1000 c6d7 f7e5
>3 -174 2 1362 c6d7 f7e5 d7c6
>3 -173 2 1578 b6a5
>3 -173 2 1782 b6a5 f7d6 c8f8
>3 -173 3 3062 b6a5 f7d6 c8f8
>4 -169 4 4502 b6a5 e4d6 c8f8 f1h3 e7d6 f7d6
>4 -169 7 7873 b6a5 e4d6 c8f8 f1h3 e7d6 f7d6
>5 -166 15 19422 b6a5 d3c4 c6a4 c4b3 a5b6
>5 -166 20 27842 b6a5 d3c4 c6a4 c4b3 a5b6
>6 -183 44 63653 b6a5 f7e5 c8f8 f1h3 d5c7 b2c3
>6 -182 63 94155 d5b4
>6 -163 82 125386 d5b4 a4a5 b6c7 g3g4 c6e4 d3e4 c7g3 f1g2
>6 -163 92 141701 d5b4 a4a5 b6c7 g3g4 c6e4 d3e4 c7g3 f1g2
>7 -158 157 244919 d5b4 a4a5 b6c7 f7e5 c8f8 f1b1 b4d3 b1d3
>7 -158 193 299954 d5b4 a4a5 b6c7 f7e5 c8f8 f1b1 b4d3 b1d3
>8 -154 328 509147 d5b4 a4a5 b6c7 f7e5 c8f8 f1b1 c6d5 d3b5
>8 -154 438 676753 d5b4 a4a5 b6c7 f7e5 c8f8 f1b1 c6d5 d3b5
>9 -176 671 1011501 d5b4 a4a5 b6c7 d4d5 e7c5 g1h2 b4d3 d5c6 d3b2 e4c5 c7c6 f1f4 b
>8a8 c5b3
>9 -175 1950 3048804 e7f6
>9 -166 2448 3839692 e7f6 e4f6 g7f6 f7d6 c8g8 d6e4 b6b4 a4a5 g8f8
>9 -165 2770 4337018 c8f8
>9 -136 3091 4827611 c8f8
>9 -95 4473 6923793 c8f8 d3b5 c6b5 a4b5 d5c7 a1c1 b6b5 f1b5 c7b5 f7e5
>9 -95 4639 7187317 c8f8 d3b5 c6b5 a4b5 d5c7 a1c1 b6b5 f1b5 c7b5 f7e5
>10 -105 5634 8667450 c8f8 d3b5 c6b5 a4b5 d5c7 a1c1 b6b5 f1b5 c7b5 f7e5 f8e8
>10 -105 6079 9370488 c8f8 d3b5 c6b5 a4b5 d5c7 a1c1 b6b5 f1b5 c7b5 f7e5 f8e8
>11 -112 8994 13880260 c8f8 d3b5 c6b5 a4b5 d5c7 a1c1 b6b5 f1f4 b5d7 g3g4 g7g5
>11 -112 19060 29718130 c8f8 d3b5 c6b5 a4b5 d5c7 a1c1 b6b5 f1f4 b5d7 g3g4 g7g5
>12 -99 24817 38752691 c8f8 d3b5 b6c7 f1f2 c6b5 a4b5 c7d7 b5b6 d5b6 f2f4 d7c7 f4c
>7 b8c7 a1c1 c7b8 f7e5 g7g5
>
>
>Uri



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