Author: Sune Larsson
Date: 07:14:33 12/28/02
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On December 28, 2002 at 04:40:58, Tony Hedlund wrote:
In a thread further down we discussed the effects of one program playing
with a 10 times bigger (?) professionally made book - vs a program with
a small autogenerated book. In a way it would be interesting with a match
between Ruffian and Tiger with reversed books... If I got Christoph right,
he meant that the outcome of a match depends on other things than books
only. And of course he's right here. In the game below, it looks like
Tiger had great problems understanding the position after the last book
move 10.Be6.
[D]r2q1rk1/bpp2pp1/p1npbn1p/4p3/1PP5/P1NP1NP1/1B2PPBP/R2Q1RK1 w - - 0 11
After 10.-Be6 black had a long sequence only moving the queen and the
light squared bishop: 12.-Bxc4, 13.-Be6, 16.-Qxf6, 18.-Qxb2 20.-Qf6
22.-Qb2, 23.-Bc4, 24.-Be6, 25.-Qf6, 26.-Bb3, 27.-Qg5, 29.-Qe7, 30.-Be6,
31.-Bg4, 33.-Be6. This is one way of losing a game. After 33.-Be6 there
was the following position:
[D]1r3r2/bp2qpk1/p1pNb1pp/Q3P2P/1P2B2R/P3P1P1/3R1PK1/8 w - - 0 34
White dominates the board and has a clear advantage.
/s
>[Event "SSDF"]
>[Site "Tony"]
>[Date "2002.12.27"]
>[Round "39"]
>[White "Ruffian 1.0.1 A1200"]
>[Black "Chess Tiger 15.0 A1200"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[BlackElo "2731"]
>[Opening "A29 English: Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto"]
>
>{Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
>1. c4 e5 { Score: 0,00 depth: 1 e5 } 2. Nc3 Nf6 { Score: 0,00 depth: 1 Nf6 }
>3. Nf3 Nc6 { Score: 0,00 depth: 1 Nc6 } 4. g3 Bc5 { Score: 0,00 depth: 1 Bc5
>} 5. d3 d6 { Score: 0,00 depth: 1 d6 } 6. Bg2 h6 { Score: 0,00 depth: 1 h6 }
>7. O-O O-O { Score: 0,00 depth: 1 O-O } 8. a3 a6 { Score: 0,00 depth: 1 a6 }
>9. b4 Ba7 { Score: 0,00 depth: 1 Ba7 } 10. Bb2 Be6 { Score: 0,00 depth: 1
>Be6 } 11. e3 e4 { Score: -0,16 depth: 14 e4 Ne1 exd3 Nd5 Ng4 Nxd3 Nge5 Qb3
>Nxd3 Qxd3 Ne5 Bxe5 dxe5 Qe4 c6 Nc3 } 12. dxe4 Bxc4 { Score: -0,08 depth: 15
>Bxc4 Re1 Re8 Nd2 Be6 Nd5 Ng4 Qc2 Rc8 Rac1 f6 Nc4 Qd7 f3 Bxd5 exd5 } 13. Re1
>Be6 { Score: -0,12 depth: 14 Be6 Qc2 Re8 Nd2 a5 b5 Ne7 e5 dxe5 Bxb7 Rb8 Bf3
>Nf5 } 14. Nh4 Ne5 { Score: -0,18 depth: 15 Ne5 Nd5 c6 Nxf6+ Qxf6 Qxd6 Nf3+
>Bxf3 Qxb2 Qc7 Rab8 Nf5 Qf6 Qd6 Rbd8 Qe7 Qxe7 } 15. Nd5 c6 { Score: -0,15
>depth: 15 c6 Nxf6+ Qxf6 Qxd6 Nf3+ Nxf3 Qxb2 Qe7 Rab8 Reb1 Qc3 Rc1 Qb2 Rcb1
>Qc3 Rc1 Qb2 Rcb1 } 16. Nxf6+ Qxf6 { Score: -0,42 depth: 17 Qxf6 Qxd6 Nf3+
>Bxf3 Qxb2 Qc7 Rab8 Nf5 Qf6 } 17. Qxd6 Nf3+ { Score: -0,28 depth: 16 Nf3+ Nxf3
>Qxb2 Red1 Rfe8 Qd3 Qf6 Nd4 Rad8 f3 g5 g4 Qe5 Bf1 Bxd4 exd4 Qf4 } 18. Bxf3
>Qxb2 { Score: -0,34 depth: 14 Qxb2 Qc7 Rab8 Nf5 Kh7 Qf4 Rbd8 Reb1 Qf6 e5
>Qg5 Nd6 Rd7 Be4+ Kg8 } 19. Qc7 Rab8 { Score: -0,26 depth: 15 Rab8 Reb1 Qf6
>Qf4 Qxf4 gxf4 Rfd8 Nf5 Rd3 Rd1 Rbd8 Bg4 Rxd1+ Rxd1 Rxd1+ } 20. Nf5 Qf6 { Score:
>-0,27 depth: 13 Qf6 Rac1 Kh7 Qf4 Qb2 Ra1 Rbd8 Reb1 Qc3 e5 g5 Qe4 Bd5 }
>21. Kg2 Kh7 { Score: -0,36 depth: 14 Kh7 Qf4 g5 Qg4 Rbd8 h4 Rg8 Red1 gxh4
>Qxh4 Qxh4 Nxh4 Bb3 Rh1 Rd2 } 22. Rad1 Qb2 { Score: -0,22 depth: 14 Qb2 Qa5
>Qc3 Rg1 Qb2 Nd4 Bxd4 exd4 Qc3 Bh5 Rfd8 d5 cxd5 exd5 b6 } 23. Qa5 Bc4 { Score:
>-0,48 depth: 14 Bc4 Nd6 Be6 Rd3 g6 Red1 Qf6 R1d2 Rg8 Qa4 Bh3+ Kxh3 Qxf3 }
>24. Nd6 Be6 { Score: -0,56 depth: 16 Be6 h3 g6 Bg4 Rbd8 Re2 Qf6 e5 Qe7 Bxe6
>Qxe6 f4 Rd7 Qa4 Bb8 } 25. Re2 Qf6 { Score: -0,62 depth: 15 Qf6 Red2 g6 e5 Qe7
>Ne4 Rbc8 Nf6+ Kg7 Bg4 Bxg4 Nxg4 Qe6 Nf6 Bb8 f4 } 26. Red2 Bb3 { Score: -0,56
>depth: 15 Bb3 e5 Qg5 Rc1 Rfd8 Be4+ Kg8 f4 Qe7 Rc3 Be6 Qa4 f6 exf6 Qxf6 Rcd3 }
>27. e5 Qg5 { Score: -0,86 depth: 16 Qg5 Rc1 Be6 Rcc2 Bb3 h4 Qd8 Nxb7 Qxa5
>Nxa5 Bxc2 Rxc2 Bb6 } 28. Be4+ g6 { Score: -0,72 depth: 15 g6 Rc1 Be6 h4 Qd8
>Qa4 Qe7 h5 Rbd8 Qc2 Rg8 } 29. h4 Qe7 { Score: -0,64 depth: 15 Qe7 Bc2 Bd5+
>Rxd5 cxd5 Qxd5 Kg7 Qe4 h5 Bb3 b5 e6 fxe6 Bxe6 Qf6 } 30. Rb1 Be6 { Score: -0,58
> depth: 14 Be6 h5 Bg4 Rh1 Kg7 hxg6 fxg6 Rh4 Be6 Qa4 Rbd8 Qc2 Bf7 Bd3 Qxe5 }
>31. h5 Bg4 { Score: -0,66 depth: 14 Bg4 f3 Bxh5 g4 Bxe3 Re2 Qg5 e6 f5 Qc7+
>Kg8 e7 } 32. Rh1 Kg7 { Score: -0,62 depth: 13 Kg7 hxg6 fxg6 f3 Be6 Rd3 Rbd8
>Rhd1 Rd7 Qa4 Bb8 g4 Rfd8 Qc2 } 33. Rh4 Be6 { Score: -1,22 depth: 15 Be6 hxg6
>fxg6 Rf4 Kh7 Rxf8 Rxf8 b5 cxb5 Bxb7 Bc5 Bxa6 Bg4 f4 Rd8 Nxb5 } 34. hxg6 fxg6 {
>Score: -1,50 depth: 14 fxg6 Qa4 Bg8 Rg4 g5 Nf5+ Rxf5 Bxf5 Bd5+ e4 Qxe5 exd5
>Qxf5 Rc4 cxd5 Qc2 } 35. Kh1 Rbd8 { Score: -0,32 depth: 13 Rbd8 Kg1 Rd7 Kg2
>Rfd8 Rd1 Bb8 Rdh1 Rh8 Qc5 g5 Rh5 Bxd6 exd6 Rxd6 } 36. Rf4 Kh7 { Score: -0,44
>depth: 13 Kh7 Kg1 Qg7 Bg2 Bb3 b5 Qxe5 Qc7+ Qg7 Qxg7+ Kxg7 bxa6 bxa6 Bxc6 }
>37. Rxf8 Rxf8 { Score: -0,76 depth: 14 Rxf8 Kg2 Bg4 f3 Be6 Rd3 Ba2 f4 Bb1
>Rc3 Ba2 Qa4 Be6 Qc2 } 38. b5 cxb5 { Score: -0,60 depth: 13 cxb5 Bxb7 Bc5 Be4
>Qa7 Qc3 Bb6 Kg2 Qc7 } 39. Bxb7 Bb8 { Score: -0,74 depth: 13 Bb8 Qb6 Qg5 Qc5
>a5 Kg2 b4 axb4 axb4 f4 Qh5 Qxb4 Qh3+ Kf2 Bc7 } 40. Qxa6 Qg5 { Score: -0,74
>depth: 14 Qg5 Bg2 Qxe5 Qb7+ Kg8 Qe7 Qa1+ Kh2 Bb3 Nxb5 Qe5 Qxe5 Bxe5 } 41. Be4
>Qxe5 { Score: -0,99 depth: 15 Qxe5 Qb7+ Qg7 Qxg7+ Kxg7 Nxb5 Bc4 a4 Bxb5
>axb5 Bc7 f3 Rf6 Rd7+ Rf7 Rxf7+ Kxf7 } 42. Qb7+ Qg7 { Score: -1,48 depth: 17
>Qg7 Qxg7+ Kxg7 Nxb5 Bc4 Nd4 Re8 Bg2 Rf8 Nc6 Bc7 f4 Rf6 Rd7+ Rf7 Rxf7+ Kxf7 e4
>Bd6 a4 } 43. Nxb5 Qxb7 { Score: -1,30 depth: 16 Qxb7 Bxb7 Bc4 Nd4 Rf7 Be4 Re7
>Nc6 Rxe4 Nxb8 Be6 Nd7 Bxd7 Rxd7+ Kg8 } 44. Bxb7 Rf7 { Score: -2,10 depth: 14
>Rf7 Bc6 Rf6 Bg2 Bc4 Nd4 Bd6 a4 Bf7 f4 Be8 Ra2 Bb4 Nc2 } 45. Be4 Bd7 { Score:
>-1,96 depth: 16 Bd7 Nc3 Be5 Ne2 Bg4 Nf4 Ra7 Rd3 Bf5 Bxf5 gxf5 Ne6 Bb2 Nd4
>Bxd4 exd4 Ra4 d5 } 46. Bd5 Rf6 { Score: -1,74 depth: 16 Rf6 Nd4 Rb6 Bb3 Be5
>Kh2 Bf5 Bc4 Bd7 e4 Bd6 Rd3 } 47. a4 Bxb5 { Score: -1,59 depth: 16 Bxb5 axb5
>Ba7 Kg2 g5 Bc6 Bb6 Ra2 Rf8 Ra6 Rb8 e4 h5 f4 gxf4 } 48. axb5 Ba7 { Score: -1,87
> depth: 16 Ba7 Kg2 Kg7 e4 Rd6 f4 Kf8 Kf3 Ke7 e5 Rd8 Ke4 Rc8 Bc6 Bc5 Rd5 }
>49. Bc4 Bc5 { Score: -1,91 depth: 18 Bc5 Rd7+ Kh8 Kg2 Bb6 Rb7 h5 Bd5 g5 Bc4
>h4 Kh3 Bc5 Rc7 Bb4 gxh4 gxh4 Kxh4 Rxf2 b6 } 50. Rd7+ Kh8 { Score: -2,06
>depth: 19 Kh8 Rd8+ Kg7 Kg2 h5 Rg8+ Kh6 Rc8 Bb6 Re8 Bc5 f4 Rd6 Kf3 Kg7 Rc8 Bb6
>e4 Rd2 e5 } 51. Kg2 Bb6 { Score: -2,00 depth: 16 Bb6 Re7 Bc5 Re5 Bb6 f4 Kg7
>Re8 Rd6 Kf3 Bc5 Rc8 Bb6 e4 Rd2 e5 } 52. g4 g5 { Score: -1,79 depth: 17 g5 Bd5
>Bc5 Rc7 Bb6 Rc6 Rxc6 bxc6 Kg7 Kf3 Kf6 Ke4 Ke7 f4 gxf4 exf4 } 53. Bd5 Bc5 {
>Score: -2,00 depth: 19 Bc5 Rc7 Bb6 Rc8+ Kh7 Ra8 Bc5 Bc6 Rd6 Kf3 Rd2 Rc8 Kg7
>Rc7+ Kf8 Be4 Bb6 Rc6 Bd8 } 54. Rc7 Bb4 { Score: -2,11 depth: 17 Bb4 Kf1 Rb6
>Bc6 Kg8 Ke2 Bd6 Ra7 Bb8 Rd7 Be5 } 55. Kf1 Rd6 { Score: -2,14 depth: 17 Rd6 e4
>Ba5 Rf7 Rb6 Bc6 Kg8 Ra7 Bc3 Ke2 Kf8 Kd3 Bb4 f3 Be7 Ra8+ Kf7 } 56. Bc4 Ba5 {
>Score: -2,07 depth: 17 Ba5 Rf7 Rd1+ Ke2 Rd2+ Kf3 Rc2 Bd3 Rb2 Rh7+ Kg8 Rxh6
>Kf7 Rc6 Bb4 Be2 } 57. Ra7 Bb6 { Score: -2,12 depth: 17 Bb6 Rb7 Ba5 e4 Rd2 e5
>Rd1+ Kg2 Rd4 e6 Bb4 Rc7 Rxg4+ Kf1 Re4 b6 Re1+ Kg2 Bd6 Rd7 } 58. Rf7 Ba5 {
>Score: -2,18 depth: 17 Ba5 Ke2 Rd2+ Kf3 Rb2 Ke4 Rc2 Ra7 Rxc4+ Kd5 Ra4 b6
>Rb4 Rxa5 Rxb6 f4 Kg7 Kc5 } 59. Ke2 Rd2+ { Score: -2,18 depth: 17 Rd2+ Kf3 Rb2
>Ke4 Rc2 Kd5 Rb2 Ke6 Kg8 f4 Rc2 Bd5 gxf4 Ra7 Bb6 Ra6 } 60. Kf3 Rc2 { Score:
>-2,16 depth: 16 Rc2 Bd3 Rb2 Rh7+ Kg8 Rxh6 Kf8 Rg6 Bd8 e4 Be7 e5 Bc5 Rxg5
>Ke7 Be2 Rb3+ } 61. Bd3 Rb2 { Score: -2,25 depth: 17 Rb2 Rh7+ Kg8 Rxh6 Kf8
>Rh8+ Ke7 Rg8 Be1 Be2 Kf6 Rf8+ Kg7 Rf5 Kg6 Rd5 Kf6 Rd6+ Ke5 Rg6 } 62. Ke4 Kg8 {
>Score: -2,09 depth: 16 Kg8 Ra7 Be1 Bc4+ Kf8 f3 Rc2 Kd5 Rd2+ Ke6 Bg3 Ra8+
>Kg7 e4 Bf4 e5 Be3 Kf5 Bd4 } 63. Bc4 Rb4 { Score: -2,25 depth: 16 Rb4 Rc7+ Kf8
>Rc6 Kg7 f4 gxf4 exf4 Bd8 f5 Bf6 Kd3 Rb2 b6 Bd8 Rc7+ Kf6 Rf7+ Kg5 Rg7+ } 64. Rc7+
>Kf8 { Score: -2,51 depth: 18 Kf8 Rc6 Kg7 f4 gxf4 exf4 Bd8 f5 Bf6 Kd3 Rb2 b6
>Bd8 Rd6 Bg5 Rg6+ Kh7 Bd5 Rd2+ Ke4 Re2+ Kf3 } 65. Rc6 Ke7 { Score: -2,52
>depth: 15 Ke7 f4 gxf4 exf4 Kd7 Kd5 Bc7 f5 Rb1 Rxh6 Rd1+ Kc5 Be5 Rh7+ Ke8 g5
>Bd4+ Kc6 } 66. f4 gxf4 { Score: -3,25 depth: 16 gxf4 exf4 Kd7 f5 Bd8 Kd4 Bg5
>f6 Ra4 f7 Ra8 Bd5 Rf8 b6 Bh4 b7 } 67. exf4 Kd7 { Score: -2,73 depth: 14 Kd7
>Kd5 Rb1 Rxh6 Bd2 Rh7+ Ke8 f5 Bg5 Rg7 Rd1+ Kc6 Bf4 b6 Rc1 Kd5 } 68. Kd5 Rb1 {
>Score: -3,59 depth: 16 Rb1 Rxh6 Bd2 g5 Rg1 g6 Kc7 Rh7+ Kb6 f5 Rg5 Ke4 Bc3
>Kf4 Bd2+ } 69. Rxh6 Bc3 { Score: -3,42 depth: 14 Bc3 Rh7+ Ke8 g5 Rd1+ Ke6
>Re1+ Kf5 Re7 Rxe7+ Kxe7 b6 Kd6 Bd5 Be1 b7 Kc7 g6 Bg3 } 70. Rh7+ Kd8 { Score:
>-5,34 depth: 16 Kd8 g5 Rd1+ Kc6 Rd4 Bd5 Rxf4 b6 Be5 b7 Rg4 Bf7 Rxg5 } 71. g5
>Rd1+ { Score: -6,73 depth: 16 Rd1+ Kc6 Rd4 Be6 Re4 f5 Re1 b6 Rc1 Bc4 Be5 b7
>} 72. Kc6 Rd4 { Score: -6,71 depth: 15 Rd4 Be6 Re4 f5 Re1 b6 Rc1 Bc4 Be5 b7
>Rxc4+ Kd5 Rb4 Kxe5 } 73. Be6 Re4 { Score: -10,84 depth: 15 Re4 f5 Re1 b6 Rc1
>b7 Be1+ Kd5 Rd1+ Ke4 Bg3 g6 Re1+ Kf3 Bb8 g7 Rg1 g8Q+ Rxg8 Bxg8 } 74. f5 Re1 {
>Score: -12,02 depth: 14 Re1 b6 Rc1 b7 Be1+ Kb5 Rb1+ Kc4 Rb4+ Kd5 Bd2 g6 Bc3
>Rd7+ Ke8 g7 Bxg7 Rxg7 Kf8 } 75. Bc4 Re4 { Score: -Mate in 11 depth: 15 Re4
>Bd5 Re7 Rxe7 Kxe7 f6+ Kd8 Be6 Bd4 b6 } 76. Bd5 Rf4 { Score: -13,22 depth: 13
>Rf4 b6 Rxf5 b7 Be5 Rd7+ Ke8 Rd6 Bxd6 Kxd6 Rxd5+ Kxd5 Kf7 b8Q Kg6 Qe5 Kf7 } 1-0
>
>Tony
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