Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 09:02:45 12/28/02
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On December 28, 2002 at 11:04:12, Uri Blass wrote: >On December 28, 2002 at 10:45:29, Torstein Hall wrote: > >>On December 28, 2002 at 09:45:02, Drexel,Michael wrote: >> >>>[D] 8/8/pp6/2pp2p1/3p2Pk/3P1K1P/5PP1/8 b - - 0 1 >>> >>>Ruffian is the best analysis-engine I can think of. >>>Ruffian 1.0.1 (96 MB hash)on Athlon@1.6Ghz finds the mate in 13 >>>in 5 sec (Yes 0:05!!) . This is amazing. >>>hey you out there with your 2.8 Ghz Xeons and Deep Fritz 7 engines. >>>Try to beat that! >>>hope Per-ola will bring out a native Chessbase version of this great program >>>soon because there exists some problems with UCI version in Chessbase GUI. >>>I would pay 25$ for a native CB engine. >>>I dont need chess engines with much positional knowledge for analysis. every >>>chessplayer >2200 has much more positional knowledge than all chess-engines >>>together. >> >>Is this position a good test to see if a program has a lot of chess knowledge? >>The faster its solved the position, the less it knows about chess...? >>No, I think I must be wrong, probably is something with extending the right >>lines. etc. etc. But the idea fasinated me, that there may be positions that is >>best solved just counting material.... >> >>Torstein > >The poster claimed that he does not care about knowledge so this position is not >supposed to be a test if the program has a lot of chess knowledge. > >I do not believe that chess knowledge is a disadvantage because without chess >knowledge you may have no ideas where to extend. > >Uri First: Im not an expert at all. I agree that every chess engine needs to have some kind of basic chess knowledge. Shredder for example seems to have much more then only basic knowledge but was known as a relatively slow searcher. this is not a position where it is necessary to find a mate because almost every engine give positive score for white. nevertheless, in other positions only one line leads to a mate or to decisive material advantage and all other lines to big disadvantage. obviously, if the engine is not able to find this line in reasonable time, it would not able to evaluate the position correct.
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