Author: Enrique Irazoqui
Date: 04:15:46 09/21/98
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On September 20, 1998 at 20:00:45, Fernando Villegas wrote: >Hi Amir, Dan and Bruce: >I fully adheres to the sentiments expresed by Detlef in order to be more >forgiveness with Thorsten. It seems that he is going at full speed towards a red >card and that means another guy will be lost for us. >It is truth that Thorsten has gone beyond limits this time and that you are >there as moderators to stop these things; I know also that you have warned him >several times. I know the rules: no insults, no personal attacks, etc. >Nevertheless, rules are just an area for the examination of behaviour, NOT a >definite line. There is space to measure other kind of things. Yes, TC has gone >too far sometimes, but he is one of the most productive fellows here, he post a >lot of stuff, many of it very entertainning even if he is mistaken or goes >beyond what most of us could deem as rational. It is clear that his broadsides >are more the result of temperamental outburst than the result of a perverse will >to insult or malign. Sometimes he is not even worst in that area than many of >us, but just he is more sincere and direct. I have seen many posts where >educated words hide even worst insults. >Any case, although I am more easygoing and calm, -but remember I am 49 years old >and at this awful age you just save your energy for things more pleasant than >words wars- I do not feel myself entitled to blame anybody. I do not forget that >we are, from the sheer fact of our weird interest, a mad, freaky, crazy-as-horse >bunch of people and so I would not hope and wait too much delicacies and charm >from anybody here. >Let's forget T bombs. They are even funny at times. And besides he is right >sometimes. But then, why do we want a moderated forum? What is the difference between CCC and RGCC? Lately, not much. Following your criteria, none at all. What you are saying is that if someone is interesting and "funny" he can go overboard. Or else: if not interesting and funny he can't step over the limits. A definition of double standards. In fact, I have no idea any longer of what is or is not allowed in CCC. I agree with many of your views in this post. Thorsten went over the limits a number of times and some, including me, replied in quite an aggressive way as well. Quite upset by all this, I complained to moderators a couple of times asking them to do something about Thorsten's attacks. On the other hand, a computer chess forum without Thorsten would be, I think, much less interesting. More peaceful, also more sterile. A side effect of keeping interesting and aggressive people is the absence of some others that either left CCC "appalled" or won't post in a forum where they can get blasted. Both things already happened. In the end, I wonder if we are talking about Thorsten or about the concept of a moderated forum. It might be a flawed concept in itself. What I read in your post is a proposal to go for a non moderated forum, and I am not saying you are wrong. Enrique >Fernando
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