Author: Uri Blass
Date: 12:02:16 12/29/02
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On December 29, 2002 at 14:41:02, Drexel,Michael wrote: >On December 29, 2002 at 13:53:52, liam hearns wrote: > >>i think its very informative,no books ,let us see what the engines are like >>without there ref. library! > >as always: i dont know anything. I only TRY to think logical. >both programs are commercial. both are delivered with an own opening book. >both programmers are interested to win WorldChampionship titels or at least >to get a high rating at SSDF in order to sell their programs. >therefore they simply dont care about how the engines perform without their >books. they try to improve the playing strength of the programs in >middle and endgame positions. both programs play openings very weak without >opening book: 3...Qe6+?,4.Nb4?. >even if Chesstiger would play openings better as shredder overall. who cares? >assumed they had played not only 17 but 1700 games with a result >+900 =400 -400 in favour of Tiger. >this would mean no more than Chesstiger is doing probably better in the >positions after >1.e4 Nc6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 Bf5 4.Nf3 Nb4 and 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qe6+. >if a chess grandmaster would dare to play one of these positions with black >against another grandmaster he probably would have to resign in not more then 20 >moves. >probably no chessmaster would be interested in how chessengines will perform in >this positions. >if you believe it or not. both variations are clearly better for white. >if both sides would play perfectly then white would score a 100%. I agree that the position are better for white. I do not agree that black can resign in 20 moves in GM-GM games. I am also not sure if white win against exact defence in this opening. >it would probably be easy to find another two positions so that shredder has the >upper hand. I agree about it. Uri
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