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Subject: Re: New stuff on Ed's page

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 11:01:21 12/30/02

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On December 30, 2002 at 11:32:08, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On December 29, 2002 at 19:35:52, Martin Giepmans wrote:
>
>If you use nullmove don't use any of the reduction-2 stuff.
>Ed isn't using nullmove. It is very dangerous to use.

:-)

I gave a warning, from the page:

OTHER REDUCTIONS : REBEL does several other reductions, to understand them you
will need to know a little bit more about the quite different approach of
REBEL's Search Algorithm in comparison to other chess programs, I therefore
highly question the relevance of this topic as I assume that it can't be used in
other programs without drastic changes, nevertheless here goes...

==========

But wait till I have explained null-move, you will have a better picture then.

Ed


>I also concluded the red1 doesn't work too well for me.
>
>I get 1-5% speedup out of it.
>
>It basically only reduces the tree after for example from opening
>
>e4 h5 qxh5 rxh5 d4 <reduction-1> <nullmove> (some moves and cutoff)
>
>So my nullmove reduction factor becomes from R=3 to R=4 in such a case.
>
>If i want to use R=4 i'll let my program know it by myself,
>so i turned off reduction-1 for now. It's a feature however in diep people
>can turn on when they want to.
>
>>On December 29, 2002 at 19:05:51, Tony Werten wrote:
>>
>>>http://members.home.nl/matador/chess840.htm
>>>
>>>Tony
>>
>>The formula for reductions 2b and 2c look strange:
>>"alpha < score + threat + margin --> reduce depth ..."
>>
>>This would imply that a bigger threat gives more reductions ...
>>Should be score - threat - margin?
>>
>>Martin



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