Author: Dirk Frickenschmidt
Date: 10:16:56 09/21/98
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On September 21, 1998 at 05:41:10, Tord Romstad wrote: Hi Tord, hi Fernando, I agree with both of you that it would be best if Thorsten could stay within CCC, posting no doubt interesting computer chess stuff hopefully in a peaceful way. I do *not* agree with you that as long as he does post interesting stuff, he can be as agressive, contemptive and offensive towards others as he likes or tries to define for his very special purposes. I hope you don't find all that quite harmless for the simple reason you do not belong to his favorite targets. ;-) I fully subscribe to the view that what he did here over weeks (and not just in one or two single cases) is simply a case for moderation, and thank the moderators for moderating - while obviously not(!) aiming especially at Thorsten, but rather in the sense of making *no* *exception* especially designed for him, while he violates rules and spirit of CCC - what he has done heavily and repeatedly from my view. As soon as the like would be tolerated within CCC I would have to regard CCC as an unmoderated forum, wide open for slanderous and offensive posting. In this case I would immediately have to leave. I guess some others too... The main reason for founding CCC was being able to talk about computer chess without having to tolerate mean personal attacks. I still hope that Thorsten might return to showing at least some good will, to come back to peaceful posting and settle the situation. I am very open to accept him like anyone else from the very moment he stops bothering others and other's convictions like he got used to do since a while now... Kind regards from Dirk >On September 20, 1998 at 20:00:45, Fernando Villegas wrote: > >>Hi Amir, Dan and Bruce: >>I fully adheres to the sentiments expresed by Detlef in order to be more >>forgiveness with Thorsten. It seems that he is going at full speed towards a red >>card and that means another guy will be lost for us. >>It is truth that Thorsten has gone beyond limits this time and that you are >>there as moderators to stop these things; I know also that you have warned him >>several times. I know the rules: no insults, no personal attacks, etc. >>Nevertheless, rules are just an area for the examination of behaviour, NOT a >>definite line. There is space to measure other kind of things. Yes, TC has gone >>too far sometimes, but he is one of the most productive fellows here, he post a >>lot of stuff, many of it very entertainning even if he is mistaken or goes >>beyond what most of us could deem as rational. It is clear that his broadsides >>are more the result of temperamental outburst than the result of a perverse will >>to insult or malign. Sometimes he is not even worst in that area than many of >>us, but just he is more sincere and direct. I have seen many posts where >>educated words hide even worst insults. >>Any case, although I am more easygoing and calm, -but remember I am 49 years old >>and at this awful age you just save your energy for things more pleasant than >>words wars- I do not feel myself entitled to blame anybody. I do not forget that >>we are, from the sheer fact of our weird interest, a mad, freaky, crazy-as-horse >>bunch of people and so I would not hope and wait too much delicacies and charm >>from anybody here. >>Let's forget T bombs. They are even funny at times. And besides he is right >>sometimes. >>Fernando > >I agree 100%. Thorsten is IMHO one of the most interesting contributors to >this message board. > >Tord
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