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Subject: Re: Computer without opening books revisted...........

Author: Omid David Tabibi

Date: 16:57:08 12/30/02

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On December 30, 2002 at 16:49:23, robert flesher wrote:

>Without the opening knowledge that we all attain as we become better players the
>game is NO longer Chess it a matter of speaking. The computers must have the
>basic positions of all the major openings as these are time tested and proven to
>be sound in relative terms. I have stated that engines are tuned for certain
>positions, this is one of the strength's and should not be taken away from them.
>Its like asking, or telling Mikhail Tal he cannot sac.....//Botvinnik would have
>thanked us:)//...... there goes his strength, his edge!. If the concern is the
>rating?use the Nunn test positions where each engine gets a chance to evaluate a
>key, well known position. To watch computer's battle through the opening seems
>like a waste of time to me as they still lack the long term strategic
>understanding needed. The day i see a computer play the Marshall Gambit, Morra
>Gambit, or other genuine pawn sacks in the opening for positional play, or to
>get an edge, then i will change my mind. Cheers~

Chess programs are like a blind man with a cane. They can see everything within
the cane radius, but absolutely nothing beyond it.



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