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Subject: Re: Japan Has The World's Fastest Supercomputer

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:58:40 12/31/02

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On December 31, 2002 at 08:47:37, Frank Phillips wrote:

>On December 30, 2002 at 19:25:09, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On December 30, 2002 at 13:34:31, Frank Phillips wrote:
>>
>>>On December 30, 2002 at 11:33:18, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 30, 2002 at 05:26:32, Graham Laight wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>See http://www.talkchess.com/forums/2/message.html?54285 in the other forum.
>>>>>
>>>>>-g
>>>>
>>>>it is vector CPU's. Not comparable with cpu's that do things like computerchess
>>>>at all. So for computerchess that machine isn't that fast at all.
>>>
>>>Wasn't the Cray a vector machine?  Running Cray Blitz by Hyatt et al.
>>
>>Yes. 16 processors in total got him to about 500k nodes a second.
>>
>>I do not know what Mhz Cray Blitz ran on. But probably Hyatt can enlighten
>>us about it.
>>
>>However for matrix calculations and such that Cray was
>>considerably faster than it was for Cray Blitz.
>>
>>Then you'll see the Cray didn't do that impressive for each
>>Mhz whereas it was a lot more impressive for vector processing.
>>
>>Compare both Mhz of todays x86 with the Cray times 16 back then
>>and the vector power versus todays x86 and you'll know what we are
>>speaking about.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>Vincent
>
>
>No I cannot.  I can see that it might be slower MHz for MHz, but given its
>awesome speed (35 trillion calculations per second) I would have thought it
>would be a very strong chess machine, particularly if the program was written
>with vector processing in mind.
>
>Frank


Of course it would.  But you have to:

(1) be willing to expend the effort;

(2) understand vector processing or else put forth the effort to figure out
how it might apply to chess;

(3) not write everything off as "impossible" just because you don't know how
to do it _now_.

(4) be willing to spend a lot of time "getting into vector processing mode"
and learn how to use it effectively.  It is just like "getting into bitmaps".
_some_ are simply incapable of doing so...




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