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Subject: Re: Beating Bitscan to Death -- yet again

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 17:21:38 12/31/02

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On December 31, 2002 at 14:16:47, Matt Taylor wrote:

>On December 31, 2002 at 04:44:27, Matt Taylor wrote:
>
>>On December 30, 2002 at 18:12:29, Walter Faxon wrote:
>>
>>>On December 24, 2002 at 23:28:27, Matt Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>>http://65.186.75.165/~mtaylor/bitscan/bitscan.html
>>>>
>>><snip>
>>>>
>>>>-Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi, Matt.
>>>
>>>Well, here is Yet Another Bit Scanner (yabs), this time based on my 32-bit
>>>folding code.  Logically this one shouldn't require use of more than three
>>>general purpose registers, and thus it should be about as fast as anything I've
>>>posted before.  Just for fun, I tried to be super-pedantic and thus guide any
>>>reasonable late-Pentium compiler into producing near-optimal code.
>>>Consequently, you should be able to hand-translate this into assembler in about
>>>3 minutes, ignoring register choices and scheduling issues.
>
>Eek. VC chose a branch again. It also did something rather funny:
>
>	...
>	mov	ecx, DWORD PTR [esi]
>	test	ecx, ecx
>	sete	dl
>	test	ecx, ecx
>	mov	DWORD PTR _index$[esp+8], 0
>	push	edi
>	mov	BYTE PTR _index$[esp+12], dl
>	jne	SHORT $L73441
>	...
>
>Note the duplication of the "test ecx, ecx" sequence. I guess it didn't realize
>that the flags don't get trashed by setcc.
>
>Anyway, you might have been too pedantic, if there is such a thing. The VC 7
>compiler with full optimization targetted to Pentium Pro and beyond did not
>recognize the cmov possibility here. Since cmov is cheap (1 clock
>latency/throughput just like ALU instructions), I'm going to tweak the code a
>bit.
>
>Oh, and FYI: either because of your rigorous attempt to point out optimization
>potential or because of the different sequence to mask out the LSB, the 32-bit
>version of the routine is now faster by 2 clocks than the bsf instruction on my
>Athlon. I'm not really sure how much of a speed-up it is %-wise because I ran
>into issues with the timing code. Things were executing in negative time on
>Intel (P6/P7) chips when I tried to subtract out the timing bias, so I finally
>gave up and left it in. (Amusingly this was after I replaced my timing code with
>Intel's timing code.)
>
>-Matt

AFAIK, VC never generates code that can't be run on a 386.  What it will do is
choose an instruction order that runs fastest on the processor being optimized
for.

Dave



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