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Subject: Re: about using killers in Rebel and about programming

Author: Antonio Dieguez

Date: 17:33:34 12/31/02

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>>>>I thought that every time a move cause cutoff it is considered as the first
>>>>killer move for that ply and the question if it is because of hash or because of
>>>>other reasons is not relevant.
>>>
>>>I though the hash was something apart.
>>>And as I see in Ed's page, he has it apart too, with 127 points.
>>
>>oops I didn't answer well.
>>Forget those two sentences.
>>
>>my answer is that at least for me it is relevant.
>>
>>And when a cutoff ocurres it is not so obvius that promote to the first place or
>>even second is the best.
>
>You may be right and
>I agree that it may not be best to promote a move that cause a cutoff
>every time to the first place but the original idea of killer move is to promote
>killers always to the first place(they can go down only one place but go up only
>to the first place).

I don't know if it the "original" idea. Who was the first mentioning killers
anyway? I dunno.
Perhaps is common when two killers are used.

>I understand that if a move is not in the list of the first 5 move then
>promoting 3 places mean going to the 3th place and there are basically 6 places
>and every new killer move that is not in the best 5 is ranked 6th.

No, sorry, the fifth "killer" is just like the first move to try after the four
"real" killers of the current ply. So promoting 3 places means going to 2th
place. To any other place works worse for me.

>I have ideas that I did not try about move ordering of killer moves but this is
>not one of them so I may try some combination of my ideas with this idea.

Hopefully you have luck and more killers works better than 2 in your program.
I also will toy more now a little with killers...

be well.



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