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Subject: Re: Why Does AMD out perform The Pentium Processor in Chess Only?

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 19:10:06 12/31/02

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On December 31, 2002 at 18:30:44, Dan Andersson wrote:

>Looking trough older AMD Hammer documentation I noticed that they have the
>infrastructure for dual core CPUs already in place.
>
>MvH Dan Andersson

the dual and quad Hammers will not be extremely cheap. I hope i
can afford them. I fear i will not be able to afford a quad Hammer MP
system.

Looking at cache sizes it isn't trivially cheap what they go produce.

It's really going to take out P4 Xeons systems *completely* at *any*
benchmark. That usually has a price.

So the major question is simply when the SMP hammer versions are in the
shops. Before intel gets out with a new generation dual/quad CPU or after.

Intel *has* to copy the chipset on the cpu trick from AMD simply to keep
up. it is a real clever trick. The SMT/HT trick from intel just brings
a few percent at benchmarks (and more for chessprograms lucky).

That trick from intel with hammer however is going to run *so much* faster
on all those testsets that only question is when intel manages to release
an answer to that.

And whether that answer is again 2 times more expensive than what AMD
can produce those hammers for.

I doubt intel ever will get near AMD prizes.

Of course in case of high end cpu's that's no real issue. Speed counts
there. Speed of the caches and memory regrettably, not so much cpu itself.

The real highend supercomputer race is already won by intel IMHO. The
itanium2 and followups of it will outperform anything in that marketing
segment.

Best regards,
Vincent



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