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Subject: Re: A comparison of engines' evaluation

Author: Sune Fischer

Date: 07:30:15 01/01/03

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On January 01, 2003 at 08:48:39, Omid David Tabibi wrote:

> r1bqk1nr/pppp1ppp/2n5/2b1p3/1PB1P3/5N2/P1PP1PPP/RNBQK2R b KQkq b3 0 4
>
>The Evans Gambit, arising after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.b4, is a good
>example of positional material sacrifice. By sacrificing his b pawn, white gains
>a number if precious tempos, thus seizing the opening initiative. While the 4.b4
>gambit might not be better than the other 4th moves here, it usually reaches a
>balanced position in which white has enough compensation for the sacrificed
>pawn.

So your saying that _usually_ white gets _enough compensation_, so the position
should ideally be evaluated at 0.00?

To put it in a different way, how often is this played by the top players, is it
sound, or is it a patzer gambit?

Actually, I would be a bit worried if my program showed 0.00 or advantage for
white :)

My guesstimate would be 0.30-0.50 advantage for black is the "correct"
evaluation, ie there _is_ compensation for the pawn, but it is doubtfull if
there is _enough_.

-S.
>Now let us see how the top engines evaluate this position. There is not much
>tactics involved here, so this gives us a good opportunity to compare the
>programs' evaluation (their chess knowledge).
>
>In the table below, the evaluation of each engine is recorded after 1 minute
>analysis (since the evaluation is largely positional, no significant score
>change was noticed from one ply to another, so most probably even deeper
>searches will not change the result):
>
>
>Engine            Score
>------            -----
>Junior 7           0.06
>Fritz 7           -0.41
>Shredder 6.02     -0.33
>Chess Tiger 14    -0.82  (Gambit Tiger 2 also produced the same score)
>Hiarcs 8          -0.84
>Crafty 19.1       -0.81
>
>
>Interesting points:
>
>    - Junior 7 was the only program who evaluated the position realistically.
>
>    - Gambit Tiger 2 which is tuned for sacrificial play, did not evaluate
>      the position differently from Chess Tiger 14.
>
>    - Hiarcs 8 which is said to incorporate the most chess knowledge, displays
>      the least chess understanding in this position! (Conclusion: more chess
>      knowledge does not necessarily mean better evaluation.)
>
>Omid.
>
>P.S. An analysis of Fritz 8 and Shredder 7 will be appreciated.



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