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Subject: Re: test position avoid taking a queen for no material gain !!!

Author: Rex

Date: 08:58:07 01/03/03

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CM9000 running my personnal settings on a 1.533Ghz machine finds mate in
14.5 seconds

00:00:00.0	-0.78	3001	3245	Nf6+ Kh8 Nxe8 Nxd3+ cxd3 Raxe8 Qe3
00:00:00.0	-0.72	4001	10901	Nf6+ Kh8 Nxe8 Nxd3+ cxd3 Raxe8 Qe3 Rc8+ Kd2
00:00:00.3	0.00	5001	65105	Nf6+ Kh8 Bxh7 gxf6 Qxf6+ Kxh7 Qh4+ Kg8
00:00:01.0	3.23	6001	239703	Nf6+ Kh8 Bxh7 Qe7 Bg6 Nd3+ Bxd3 Qxf6
00:00:01.9	2.93	7001	491094	Nf6+ Kh8 Bxh7 Qe7 Bg6 Nd3+ Bxd3 Qa3+
00:00:05.8	5.96	8001	1466027	Nf6+ Kh8 Bxh7 Qe7 Qh5 Bg4 Nxg4 Qg5+
00:00:14.5	 Conversion in -489	9001	4295679	Nf6+ Kh8 Bxh7 Qe7 Bg6
00:00:18.8	 Conversion in -492	10001	5737061	Nf6+ Kh8 Bxh7 Qe7 Qh4
00:00:24.3	 Conversion in -492	11001	7856436	Nf6+ Kh8 Bxh7 Qe7 Qh4
00:00:34.2	 Conversion in -492	12001	11744942	Nf6+ Kh8 Bxh7
00:01:00.6	 Conversion in -492	13001	21467288	Nf6+ Kh8 Bxh7 Qe7 Qh4 Qxf6 Rxf6
Rfc8 Bg6+ Kg8 Qh7+ Kf8 Rxf7+ Ke8 Qg8#



On January 02, 2003 at 08:53:35, scott farrell wrote:

>This position arose in a game between chompster and a human kjf on ICC.
>
>kjf ran his clock down to about 6 secs in a 5 1 blitz game, my chompster had
>4:30 on the clock, and lost !!!
>
>This is the position after Nxb2 ... blunder ....
>
>[D] r3qrk1/pp1b1ppp/8/4p1Q1/4N3/3B4/PnP3PP/2K2R2 w - - 0 19
>
>The trick is to avoid taking the black queen, and instead Bxh7.
>
>Can some people let me know how nodes and what ply they solve this in. Any
>inside into extensions, null move/pruning exclusions that helped would be
>interesting.
>
>A slightly older crafty (18.14) needs about a guestimated 1.9 million nodes for
>the final score, and about 600K nodes to see the fail-high, at depth 8.
>
>My chompster engine needs 1 million nodes to see the fail high, then 1.7million
>nodes to see a score of over +3.
>
>my engine didnt see this tactic in the previous move, and doesnt see it until
>some 6 million nodes, too many for my slow 100Knps program to see in a blitz
>game. I am still trying to work out why it even wanted to play Nxb2 on the
>previous move, I think it was trying to avoid a large number of checking moves,
>quite clearly f5,h6,f6 are all better/safer/simpler.
>
>BTW does anyone know how to get a nice analysis out of CM8000 - all I can get is
>a few english phrases which are nice, but no score/depth/node count etc. CM8000
>would only tell me about swapping queens for knights and bishops and such like,
>and never did Bxh7, but I never got it to run proper analysis ...
>
>Thanx
>Scott



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