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Subject: Re: What is the real score here?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 04:25:23 01/04/03

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On January 04, 2003 at 06:24:15, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On January 04, 2003 at 06:01:45, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>Hi Sune
>>This position is an easy win for white who threatens 1.Qc8 +- and against this
>>deadly threat black's only move is 1...Qa8+ but it does not help as can be seen
>>from the following analysis of Shredder7 and Fritz8005 on P4 1.8/32 MB hash
>
>Hi,
>
>No I don't think it is that simple, black can do some damage before the pawn
>promotes. Most programs can find Qc8 with a +9 score if there is no other
>tactics, even mine :)
>
>
>>Utzinger,K - Shredder 7
>>3q4/3P2kp/5p2/p7/1p1R2P1/8/2Q2PK1/4r3 b - - 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Shredder 7:
>
>>1...Qa8+ 2.f3 Qd8 3.Kf2 b3 4.Qc3 Re5 5.Qc8 Qe7 6.d8B Qe6
>>  +-  (5.89)   Depth: 10/35   00:00:40  10657kN
>>  +-  (4.39)   Depth: 12/39   00:03:19  54725kN
>>
>>(Utzinger, MyTown 04.01.2003)
>>************************************************************************************
>>Utzinger,K - Fritz 8
>>3q4/3P2kp/5p2/p7/1p1R2P1/8/2Q2PK1/4r3 b - - 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Fritz 8:
>
>>1...Qa8+--
>>  +-  (4.37)   Depth: 9/35   00:00:03  2570kN
>>  +-  (3.22)   Depth: 14/45   00:01:54  82279kN
>>
>>(Utzinger, MyTown 04.01.2003)
>
>Interesting that the score drops going even deeper.
>
>Crafty takes a long time here:
>12    197   20426 104027337  1. ... Qa8+ 2. f3 Qd8 3. Rd2 Kf8 4. Qxh7 Re5 5. Rd6
>Rg5 6. Qh8+ Rg8 7. Qxf6+ Qxf6 8. Rxf6+ Ke7
>13    345   59922 328433020  1. ... Qa8+ 2. f3 Qd8 3. Rd2 Qb6 4. d8=Q Re2+ 5.
>Rxe2 Qxd8 6. Rd2 Qe7 7. Qf5 Qe5 8. Rd7+ Kh6 9. Rxh7#
>
>S.

Crafty finds the right line.

There is a trap here

1...Qa8+ 2.f3 Qd8 3.Qc8? Qe7
and suddeenly movei can fail a low to a draw score.

Movei needs some minutes to avoid 3.Qc8 at depth 11
I do not know if this trap could impress thinker.

Uri



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