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Subject: Re: Knights funeral

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 10:41:38 01/05/03

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On January 05, 2003 at 13:27:07, Drexel,Michael wrote:

>On January 05, 2003 at 12:54:03, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On January 05, 2003 at 11:00:10, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>
>>>On January 05, 2003 at 10:48:30, Sune Larsson wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 05, 2003 at 10:18:13, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>[D] N1Nk4/bpp4p/1pp1p1pP/4PpP1/5P2/3K4/8/8 w - - 0 1
>>>>>
>>>>>just another example to show how stupid your bean counters are. :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No! You must not do that... Fritz has drawn with no less than super GM
>>>> Kramnik, other programs have made GM norms. Top programs are of (super)-
>>>> GM class... Please don't kill more of people's illusions...;-)
>>>>
>>>> /s
>>>
>>>please calm down. this position is not possible in a real game.
>>>all people can keep their illusions :-)
>>
>>
>>What illusion?  Computer programs are stronger than 99.99% of all humans
>>including you.  Nobody said they are perfect and have no weaknesses.
>>Please calm down.  Your illusions are unfounded.
>
>what are you talking about? my illusions are unfounded???
>I have no illusions.
>Computers are stronger than 99.9999999% of all humans at 120/40
>because they are not able to make blunders (btw computers are allowed to use
>databases, humans cant).

I am not sure about it.

that means that there are not 10 super GM's in the world that are stronger than
the computers.

>Even I would crush every Computer program (including Deep Blue)in a
>correspondence match (opening databases allowed, chess engines not).

Again I am not sure about it.

I do not consider Deep blue because it is not going to play but I doubt if you
are going to beat Fritz8 or ruffian or Shredder7 or chessmaster9000 in a
correspondence game when you cannot use computers to help you except opening
database.

Uri



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