Author: Uri Blass
Date: 06:31:10 01/06/03
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On January 06, 2003 at 09:04:00, Drexel,Michael wrote: >On January 06, 2003 at 08:49:58, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On January 06, 2003 at 08:18:50, robert flesher wrote: >> >>>Sorry! But fritz or NO engine i have will produce the moves Ed suggests. Keeping >>>that in mind i think either he has faulty software or is forcing the engine to >>>play BAD moves. Two bad moves which are not played by fritz are nxe4, where >>>fritz prefers qe7, and this ke6 garbage will only be played by fritz if you give >>>it 1 sec or less to think and by chance its looking at ke6. Im sure other have >>>come to the same conclusion. If it was this easy to crush the top engines the >>>top players in the world would do so. FACT! >> >> >>It is easy to crush the top engines when you take back moves. >> >>I believe that the moves were done by Fritz. >>I did not see something strange in the moves of black. >>The only player who played strange moves was white and white has a clearly >>losing position before black's blunder(Kb2) >> >>Qe5 instead of Kb2 could win the game. >> >>Uri > >there IS a strange move: 14...Kxa1 > >Michael Some analysis suggest that at that point everything is losing for black. Unfortunately I did not save that analysis. I did not see a forced mate after 13...Kb2 but I could see at least positive score for white in every line that you go. Here is analysis by Deep fritz6 for move 13 of black(I remember that yace suggested also Qe6 but changed it's mind after a long analysis to Qe5) I think that both moves are winning I may be wrong and it is possible that black is already losing before Kb2 and a long analysis is needed Eduard Nemeth - Fritz 8,P [D]r1b1qb1r/pppp2pp/2nn4/6B1/3p2Q1/Pk3PP1/4N2P/RN2K2R b KQ - 0 1 Analysis by Deep Fritz: 13...Qe8xe2+-- -+ (-2.09) Depth: 1/3 00:00:00 13...Qe8xe2+-- 14.Ke1xe2 = (0.09) Depth: 1/3 00:00:00 13...Nd6-c4! -+ (-2.38) Depth: 1/4 00:00:00 13...Nd6-c4! 14.Nb1-d2+ Kb3-b2 -+ (-5.41) Depth: 1/7 00:00:00 13...Kb3-a4! -+ (-5.66) Depth: 1/7 00:00:00 13...Kb3-a4 14.Nb1-c3+ Ka4-a5 -+ (-5.44) Depth: 2/5 00:00:00 13...Nd6-b5! -+ (-5.50) Depth: 2/8 00:00:00 13...Nd6-b5! 14.Bg5-f4 -+ (-5.56) Depth: 2/9 00:00:00 13...Kb3-b2! -+ (-5.69) Depth: 2/9 00:00:00 13...Kb3-b2! 14.0-0 Kb2xa1 -+ (-8.84) Depth: 2/9 00:00:00 13...Kb3-b2 14.0-0 Kb2xa1 15.Ne2xd4 -+ (-8.84) Depth: 3/10 00:00:00 13...Kb3-b2 14.0-0 h7-h5 15.Qg4-h4 Kb2xa1 -+ (-8.97) Depth: 4/12 00:00:00 2kN 13...Kb3-b2 14.0-0 h7-h5 15.Qg4-h4 Kb2xa1 16.Ne2xd4 -+ (-8.97) Depth: 5/18 00:00:00 7kN 13...Kb3-b2 14.0-0 h7-h5 15.Qg4-h4 Kb2xa1 16.Ne2xd4 Nc6xd4 -+ (-8.97) Depth: 6/21 00:00:00 19kN 13...Kb3-b2-- -+ (-8.66) Depth: 7/24 00:00:00 65kN 13...Kb3-b2-- 14.Nb1-c3 d4xc3 15.Ra1-c1 Nd6-b5 16.Qg4-c4 Nc6-d4 -+ (-8.03) Depth: 7/24 00:00:00 97kN 13...Kb3-b2 14.Nb1-c3 d4xc3 15.Qg4-a4 Qe8-f7 16.0-0 c3-c2 17.Rf1-c1 -+ (-8.00) Depth: 8/25 00:00:00 283kN 13...Kb3-b2 14.Nb1-c3 d4xc3 15.Qg4-a4 Qe8-e6 16.Ra1-c1 Qe6-f5 17.Bg5-f4 Nd6-b5 -+ (-7.78) Depth: 9/30 00:00:01 812kN 13...Kb3-b2-- -+ (-7.47) Depth: 10/34 00:00:04 2184kN 13...Kb3-b2-- 14.0-0 Qe8xe2 15.Nb1-d2 Qe2-e6 16.Rf1-b1+ Kb2-c3 17.Rb1-b3+ Qe6xb3 18.Nd2xb3 Kc3xb3 -+ (-7.00) Depth: 10/34 00:00:11 6279kN 13...Kb3-b2-- -+ (-6.69) Depth: 11/34 00:00:23 13151kN 13...Kb3-b2-- 14.0-0 Qe8xe2 15.Nb1-d2 Qe2xf1+ 16.Ra1xf1 Kb2xa3 17.Rf1-b1 h7-h5 18.Qg4-h4 Nd6-f5 19.Rb1-a1+ -+ (-4.47) Depth: 11/35 00:00:54 29477kN 13...Nd6-b5! -+ (-4.50) Depth: 11/35 00:01:10 38455kN 13...Nd6-b5! 14.Qg4-f5 Kb3-a4 15.Qf5-c2+ Ka4-a5 16.a3-a4 Nb5-c3 17.Nb1xc3 d4xc3 18.Bg5-f4 Nc6-e5 19.Qc2-e4 -+ (-4.84) Depth: 11/38 00:02:18 73205kN 13...h7-h6! -+ (-4.88) Depth: 11/38 00:02:29 78593kN 13...h7-h6! 14.Ke1-f2 h6xg5 15.Ne2xd4+ Kb3-b2 16.Nd4xc6 Nd6-e4+ 17.f3xe4 Kb2xa1 -+ (-5.72) Depth: 11/40 00:03:02 95462kN 13...Qe8-e5! -+ (-5.75) Depth: 11/40 00:03:28 108687kN 13...Qe8-e5! 14.Ke1-f2 h7-h5 15.Qg4-h4 Bf8-e7 16.Nb1-d2+ Kb3-a4 17.Ne2-c3+ Ka4-a5 18.Nd2-b3+ Ka5-a6 19.Bg5xe7 -+ (-5.78) Depth: 11/40 00:03:51 120862kN 13...Qe8-e6! -+ (-5.81) Depth: 11/40 00:04:06 129430kN 13...Qe8-e6! 14.Qg4-f4 h7-h6 15.Ke1-f2 Nd6-b5 16.Qf4-c1 Kb3-a4 17.Qc1-c2+ Qe6-b3 18.Qc2xb3+ Ka4xb3 19.a3-a4 -+ (-6.09) Depth: 11/40 00:04:27 140647kN 13...Qe8-e6 14.Qg4-f4 h7-h6 15.Ke1-f2 Nd6-b5 16.Qf4-c1 Kb3-a4 17.Bg5-d2 Qe6-b3 18.Kf2-g2 d7-d5 -+ (-5.88) Depth: 12/36 00:04:58 158111kN 13...Qe8-e6 14.Qg4-f4 h7-h6 15.Ke1-f2 Nd6-b5 16.Qf4-c1 Kb3-a4 17.Nb1-d2 Ka4-a5 -+ (-6.00) Depth: 13/39 00:08:10 268150kN 13...Qe8-e6-- -+ (-5.69) Depth: 14/43 00:13:05 439363kN 13...Qe8-e6-- 14.Qg4-f4 Kb3-a4 15.Qf4-c1 Nd6-b5 16.Nb1-d2 Ka4-a5 17.Ke1-d1 d4-d3 18.Ne2-c3 Nb5-d4 -+ (-5.66) Depth: 14/46 00:23:00 787992kN (Blass, Tel-aviv 06.01.2003)
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